John Michael Talbot's Little Portion Hermitage

[pangaious]

What are you basing that on, Brother David? The document you provided before is confusing at best and not clear. They live in community, they do the Liturgy of the Hours, they have a farm in which they work, just like many monasteries do, they celebrate Mass w a visiting priest, they have celibates, singles within their ranks, they do other things other Orders do. So, you’re saying that they’re not an Order because they have families, who live in a separate house, but yet do everything else with them and they consititute half the membership?, because Talbot is not a priest? Or are you referring to a specific Canon law and/or technical requirement of sorts? For all practical purposes and effects that group is an Order.
There are hardly any differences between Congregations and Orders, vows being one of them, simple and solemn. But at the end of the day they do same things as far as apostolates and contemplation, according to the group’s charism. Of course, a Congregation is not an Order. But, for all practical purposes they are, even though technically they’re not. Is that the kind of thing you’re talking about?

 

[Friar_David_O.Carm]

What are you basing that on, Brother David? The document you provided before is confusing at best and not clear. They live in community, they do the Liturgy of the Hours, they have a farm in which they work, just like many monasteries do, they celebrate Mass w a visiting priest, they have celibates, singles within their ranks, they do other things other Orders do. So, you’re saying that they’re not an Order because they have families, who live in a separate house, but yet do everything else with them and they consititute half the membership?, because Talbot is not a priest? Or are you referring to a specific Canon law and/or technical requirement of sorts? For all practical purposes and effects that group is an Order.
There are hardly any differences between Congregations and Orders, vows being one of them, simple and solemn. But at the end of the day they do same things as far as apostolates and contemplation, according to the group’s charism. Of course, a Congregation is not an Order. But, for all practical purposes they are, even though technically they’re not. Is that the kind of thing you’re talking about?

Yes religious institutes work alike in may ways but it is proper to use the correct terms to describe them.

There has been no new religious order following the formation of the Jesuits.

This community is a Public Association of the Faithful.

There are different rules for each of the different types of religious institutes.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Orders of Nuns do not have priests as members either. They get priests from nighboring diocese or from local diocese or from any Order, to assist for them.
John Michael Talbot is not a priest, but he is the founder and director, so he is like a male Mother Superior of a convent oe even an Abbot who just happens not to be a priest.
Also, there are separate houses for families and for sisters and brothers, but they all come together for everything else, same campus, different buildings, living quarters, different dorms, if you may.
The families are similar to a Secular Institute, like the Secular Franciscans, but they are more attached to the regular Order as they have a house in the same campus grounds and do all worship and apostolates with them.
So, they are a religious order just like any other, because of their celibate sisters and brothers.

They are not a religious order, and don’t claim to be.

John Michael Talbot, is a 3rd order Franciscan, not a monk or a religious.

The community is essentially a 3rd order community. They don’t make Solemn Vows, but promises, as a 3rd order member would.

Jim