John the Baptist and Jesus both were born naturally of their mothers: within the text and context of Quran; Surah Maryam

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My Catholic friends and others would have noted in the chapter of Mary or Maryam in Quran that:
  1. Verses from 1-16 give life account of Jesus’ cousin John the Baptist or Yahya.
  2. Verses from 16-30 give life account of Mary, mother of Jesus.
  3. Verses from 30-37 provide life account of Jesus.
John the Baptist and Jesus were both born naturally of their mothers. Quran establishes the similarities of the events of John and Jesus; as to their birth, as to the dedication of John’s father and Jesus’ mother and their receiving Word of revelation from GodAllahYHWH, as to John’s and Jesus’ being Messenger of GodAllahYHWH etc.
I don’t see any difference among the both. They loved one another. They were good teachers of the Jewish faith.
If any Catholic friend or anybody else sees the difference; he is welcome to express it within the text and the context of Quran.
I love Jesus, Mary and Second Coming 1835-1908
 
You really are intellectually dishonest, aren’t you?
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You have to check it; I am a humble person, I have no claim to an piety. I am just a man in the street in search of truth. If you have found the truth for yourself; and you cannot prove it with rational reasons and good arguments, then . . . . ., you should learn it from Ben Masada. No harm, in my opinion.

May GodAllahYHWH bless you!

I love Jesus, Mary and Second Coming 1835-1908

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You really are intellectually dishonest, aren’t you?
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I think I am correct in my opinion; and to make you understand it I elaborate it further from the text and context of Quran.
My Catholic friends and others would have noted in the chapter of Mary or Maryam in Quran given in full in the thread, link given in the OP:

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  1. Verses from 1-16 give life account of Jesus’ cousin John the Baptist or Yahya.
  2. Verses from 16-30 give life account of Mary, mother of Jesus.
  3. Verses from 30-37 provide life account of Jesus.
There is a similarity or impossibility of both the cousins having been born ever into this world.

Zechariah was a very old person and by his experience he knew that he was now not able to cause a pregnancy to his wife. His wife was also very old, she had no children and she had no hope of giving birth to a child whatsoever.

I give here an account from Wikipedia:

Zechariah (priest)
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In the Bible, Zechariah (Ζαχαρίας in Greek, Zacharias in KJV, and Zachary in the Douay-Rheims Bible), was the father of John the Baptist, and a relative by marriage of Jesus.

Biblical account

According to the Gospel of Luke, Zechariah was a Jewish Priest and Pharisee of the line of Abijah, during the reign of King Herod the Great, and husband of Elizabeth, a woman from the priestly family of Aaron. The parentage of John the Baptist is not recorded in the other Gospels. The evangelist states that both the parents were righteous before God, since they were blameless in observing the commandments and ordinances of the Lord. When the events related in Luke commenced, their marriage was still childless, because Elizabeth was barren and, like her husband, was advanced in years (Luke 1:5-7).

The duties at the temple in Jerusalem alternated between each of the families that had descended from those appointed by King David (1 Chronicles 23:1-19). The offering of incense was one of the most solemn parts of the daily worship and, owing to the large number of eligible priests, no priest could hope to perform the task more than once during his lifetime. Luke states that during the week when it was the duty of his family to serve at the temple in Jerusalem, the lot for performing the incense offering had fallen to Zechariah.

The Gospel of Luke states that while Zechariah ministered at the golden altar of incense, an angel of God announced to him that his wife would give birth to a son, whom he was to name John, and that this son would be the forerunner of the long-expected Messiah (Luke 1:12-17). Citing their advanced age, Zechariah asked with disbelief for a sign whereby he would know the truth of this prophecy. In reply, the angel identified himself as the Archangel Gabriel, sent especially by God to make this announcement, and added that because of Zechariah’s doubt he would be struck dumb and not able to speak until the day that these things happen.

Consequently, when Zechariah went out to the waiting worshippers in the temple’s outer courts, he was unable to pronounce the customary blessing (Luke 1:18-22).
On his return home Elizabeth duly conceived. During Elizabeth’s pregnancy, her cousin Mary was visited by the angel Gabriel, overshadowed by the Holy Spirit and – though still a virgin – became pregnant with Jesus. Mary then travelled to visit her cousin Elizabeth to share the good news of Mary’s expected child and discovered that her much older cousin was also expecting the birth of a son (Luke 1:23-45).

Eight days after Elizabeth gave birth, when their son was to be circumcised according to Jewish tradition, their family members and neighbours assumed that he was to be named after his father, as was the custom. Elizabeth, however, insisted that his name was to be John; so the family then questioned her husband. As soon as Zechariah had written on a writing tablet: His name is John, he regained the power of speech, and praised God with a prophecy known as the Benedictus (Luke 1:57-79). The child grew up and became strong in spirit, but remained in the desert of Judaea until he assumed the ministry that was to earn him the name John the Baptist (or Baptizer) (Luke 1:80, 3:2-3, Matthew 3:1).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zechariah_(priest
  1. So, both the women, Mary m/o Jesus and Elizabeth m/o John were impossible to give birth to a child. Mary was young and unmarried as her cousin Elizabeth was old and barren; and her husband was of advanced age and had lost hope of having child from his wife.
  2. Citing their advanced age, Zechariah asked with disbelief for a sign whereby he would know the truth of this prophecy. In reply, the angel identified himself as the Archangel Gabriel, sent especially by God to make this announcement.
    Elizabeth was to give birth of a male child named Yahya or John.
  3. Likewise Mary was visited by the angel Gabriel and gave good news of birth of a male child.
  4. Both the ladies conceived their children under separate Word of God Allah YHWH conveyed by Archangel Gabriel.
  5. The rest is everybody’s good knowledge; they both gave birth to their children quite naturally and normally, those who may doubt it could get confirmation from a medical physician or a Gynecologist.
This is my opinion; others could differ with me freely.

I love Jesus and Mary as I love John and Zechariah

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