John the baptist doubting Jesus

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John the Baptist was a man. He was a great man chosen by God, but still a human.
He had been through the wringer being accused of a crime he did not commit
Rumors must have been flying like our current twitter-verse in the city back then.
He was imprisoned most likely tortured, beaten…who knows what else. We are not really sure how long he was there.
He was a man in physical, mental and emotional pain…real pain, pain most of us cannot imagine.
He was caged, falsely accused awaiting the decision of just what Herod was going to do.
This was not a sterile like room where death sentences are carried out now…this was a dungeon of horror and Herod had created a circus of hell. He didn’t know how long he was even going to be there, it was the capricious whim of Salome who put an end to his time.
Is he so different from any of us, especially myself, that find moments where I want reassurance?
Some say it was the disciples of John who was unsure, that they were asking.

Could he be blamed for a momentary lack of faith under duress?
Could it have been his disciples that were the ones who were unsure?
In the end does it really matter?
I dunno…
Even Christ cried out “My God, My God why have you forsaken me?”

Just my two cents…

4 Then, when John’s messengers had gone away, he took occasion to speak of John to the multitudes; What was it, he asked, that you expected to see when you went out into the wilderness? Was it a reed trembling in the wind? 25 No, not that; what was it you went out to see? Was it a man clad in silk? You must look in kings’ palaces for men that go proudly dressed, and live in luxury. 26 What was it, then, that you went out to see? A prophet? Yes, and something more, I tell you, than a prophet. 27 This is the man of whom it is written, Behold, I am sending before thee that angel of mine who is to prepare the way for thy coming.[2] 28 I tell you, there is no greater than John the Baptist among all the sons of women; and yet to be least in the kingdom of heaven is to be greater than he. 29 It was the common folk who listened to him, and the publicans, that had given God his due, by receiving John’s baptism, 30 whereas the Pharisees and lawyers, by refusing it, had frustrated God’s plan for them. 31 And the Lord said, To what, then, shall I compare the men of this generation? What are they like? 32 They put me in mind of those children who call out to their companions as they sit in the market-place and say, You would not dance when we piped to you, you would not mourn when we wept to you. 33 When John came, he would neither eat nor drink, and you say, He is possessed. 34 When the Son of Man came, he ate and drank with you, and of him you say, Here is a glutton; he loves wine; he is a friend of publicans and sinners. 35 But wisdom is vindicated by all her children.[3]
 
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The messiah notion is jews is based on Talmud and that creates limitations. A messiah of a given age doea not necessarily mean a david like or joseph like messiah as i guess. I guess messiahs reflects the need of ages and the need od this age is nature conservation or social cooperation. Anyway i may be wrong but human civilization needs help of Him in these areas.
 
No, he knew who Jesus was- He saw the Spirit rest upon Him, after all; he couldn’t possibly doubt after that.

Instead, he was trying to unite Jesus’ disciples and his own. He knew that his death was near, and so he wanted his disciples to learn to follow Jesus. They asked, “Are you the one who is to come, or should we look for another?” and He told them about His ministry before adding, “And blessed is the one who takes no offense at me.” to tell them that He is, indeed, the One.

Jesus asks the crowd why they came to see John while he was preaching, and says of him, “This is the one about whom it is written:
Behold, I am sending my messenger ahead of you; he will prepare your way before you.“
And this is exactly what John said of himself when he said about Jesus, “”This is he of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man who ranks before me, for he was before me.’” John recognized his mission, and he wouldn’t be able to complete it if he hadn’t known Who his mission was for.
 
Could he be blamed for a momentary lack of faith under duress?
There’s nothing in that passage that says that John didn’t know! Just that, hearing of Jesus’ deeds, he sent them to Jesus with a question.
 
Could he be blamed for a momentary lack of faith under duress?
Could it have been his disciples that were the ones who were unsure?
In the end does it really matter?
 
To me it does matter.
Just as it matter that joseph was not at the wedding at cana or at the cruxifiction of jesus.
 
To me it does matter.
Just as it matter that joseph was not at the wedding at cana or at the cruxifiction of jesus.
Doubts are regular obstacles in any christian’s life…that is just the way it is.
Periods of dryness and spiritual darkness are just issues everyone has to deal with.
More so under the duress of impending execution or death.

As for Joseph, we simply do not know one way or the other because scripture has not revealed it and anything beyond that is baseless speculation.
 
I dont like your tone and its a good time for me to leave this place.
 
It is hard to discern tone from reading a post sometimes, but I assure you I was in no way attacking you.

Go in peace,

M
 
To me it does matter.
Just as it matter that joseph was not at the wedding at cana or at the cruxifiction of jesus.
Why does that matter to you?

Suppose Joseph was ill OR had passed away

Or (as we know) it wasn’t necessary for FAITH for that to be known?
 
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Mary being a single mum. What a woman of great strength.
Yes. Blessed amongst all women; we know…

Yet that doesn’t answer why it appears that it’s of concern to you
knowing whether or not Joseph was in attendance at Cana and Our Lord’s Crucifixion

Jesus assigned St. John to look after Mary / Crucifixion.

One can now very easily assume that Joseph most likely passed away B4 Crucifixion

Or am I mistaken on that latter note?

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