John the Baptist vs Lazarus

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Why did Jesus choose to raise Lazarus over John the Baptist (cousin?) … Or why not both?
 
You would have to ask Him. It hasn’t come up in our conversations recently, but then again I find Him fairly taciturn at the best of times.
 
John had fulfilled his prophetic mission, while Lazarus fulfilled his by being raised from the dead.
 
I can’t imagine what would have been going through Lazarus’ mind as he was being un-bandaged…
 
po18guy said:
John had fulfilled his prophetic mission, while Lazarus fulfilled his by being raised from the dead.
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I buy that … But what was John the Baptists prophetic mission?

But also wondering how we incorporated visiting prisoners into our Corporal Works of Mercy, if Jesus never visited John the Baptist while he was in jail.
 
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I buy that … But what was John the Baptist’s prophetic mission?
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Jesus told us quite simply:
9 “1But what did you go out to see? aA prophet? Yes, I tell you, and one who is more than a prophet. 10 “This is the one about whom it 1is written,
‘aBehold, I send My messenger 2ahead of You,
Who will prepare Your way before You.’
11 “Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is 1least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
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Matthew 11:9–11


  1. *]"For this is the one referred to by Isaiah the prophet, saying, ‘The voice of one crying in the wilderness, ‘Make ready the way of the Lord, make His paths straight!’’ (Matt. 3:3).
    *]"The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 2As it is written in Isaiah the prophet, “Behold, I send My messenger before Your face, who will prepare Your way; 3The voice of one crying in the wilderness, ‘Make ready the way of the Lord, make His paths straight.’” (Mark 1:1-3).
    *]'This is the one about whom it is written, ‘Behold, I send My messenger before Your face, who will prepare Your way before You.’ (Matt. 11:10).
    *]“He [John the Baptist] said, ‘I am a voice of one crying in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way of the Lord.’ as Isaiah the prophet said.’” (John 1:23).
    But also wondering how we incorporated visiting prisoners into our Corporal Works of Mercy, if Jesus never visited John the Baptist while he was in jail.
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    He would probably have been arrested but even if He hadn’t been in danger it is unreasonable to expect Our Lord to have done everything we should do…
 
He would probably have been arrested but even if He hadn’t been in danger it is unreasonable to expect Our Lord to have done everything we should do…
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He never built hospitals, organized food pantries, etc, either.

He had a specific mission. As did JB.

And JB’s mission having been fulfilled, having undergone the sorrow of a fully-conscious death, and now safe in the afterlife, to have awakened his mortal body to one day die again would not have been a kindness. IMNAAHO

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I recon its because Jesus couldn’t find John the Baptist’s Head. It would have been freaky of poor John was brought back to life with no head. I have seen this on the farm. When you cut off a chicken’s head he runs around aimlessly and that’s just not right.
 
BubaBob said:
I recon its because Jesus couldn’t find John the Baptist’s Head. It would have been freaky of poor John was brought back to life with no head. I have seen this on the farm. When you cut off a chicken’s head he runs around aimlessly and that’s just not right.
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The human body will not move without its head, even briefly (or even with a broken neck).

Retrieving the head would be no problem for our LORD!

But what point would there have been to resuscitating JB? Like Moses, his human task was done. Having him go through the fear and grief of a conscious death, and then come back to face death all over again, would be harsh and serve no purpose, unlike the raising of Lazarus.

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GEddie said:
The human body will not move without its head, even briefly (or even with a broken neck).

Retrieving the head would be no problem for our LORD!

But what point would there have been to resuscitating JB? Like Moses, his human task was done. Having him go through the fear and grief of a conscious death, and then come back to face death all over again, would be harsh and serve no purpose, unlike the raising of Lazarus.

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If you say so, I honestly can’t claim to have much first hand experience with people who have had their head cut off!

However that John the Baptist fellow, how do you know that he couldn’t have had any further purpose if he were brought back to earth? He seems like the type of guy that might have had more to say to that jerk King Herod.
 
BubaBob said:
If you say so, I honestly can’t claim to have much first hand experience with people who have had their head cut off!

However that John the Baptist fellow, how do you know that he couldn’t have had any further purpose if he were brought back to earth? He seems like the type of guy that might have had more to say to that jerk King Herod.
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It’s pretty well established that after beheadings (which happened all the time in France until 1981), the bodies did not get up and walk around, or even wiggle their limbs. Like they said in Highlander: “If your head comes off your neck, it’s over.”

And if JB had been brought back, KH would just have killed him again. Remember, those raised by our LORD were given restored human bodies, not resurrectional bodies (pneumatikon soma).

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GEddie said:
It’s pretty well established that after beheadings (which happened all the time in France until 1981), the bodies did not get up and walk around, or even wiggle their limbs. Like they said in Highlander: “If your head comes off your neck, it’s over.”

And if JB had been brought back, KH would just have killed him again. Remember, those raised by our LORD were given restored human bodies, not resurrectional bodies (pneumatikon soma).

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It is probably the most humane method to kill someone (Guillotine). Any form of normal consciousness would be over very quickly if the shock of the blow did not make it instantaneous. It was just gruesome.

Beheading by ax was a very iffy proposition. Even Mary, Queen of Scots required multiple blows to accomplish the complete removal of the head. She was said to have moaned and spoken after the first blow. Henry VIII, being the sweetheart he was, hired an executioner from France who used a sword. It was said that she died instantly.

Sorry for the rambling, but it’s late here and I must be getting daffy,
 
Giggly_Giraffe said:
I buy that … But what was John the Baptists prophetic mission?

But also wondering how we incorporated visiting prisoners into our Corporal Works of Mercy, if Jesus never visited John the Baptist while he was in jail.
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We were all in jail here on this earth, prisoners to sin, and Jesus visited us 😉
 
GEddie said:
It’s pretty well established that after beheadings (which happened all the time in France until 1981), the bodies did not get up and walk around, or even wiggle their limbs. Like they said in Highlander: “If your head comes off your neck, it’s over.”

And if JB had been brought back, KH would just have killed him again. Remember, those raised by our LORD were given restored human bodies, not resurrectional bodies (pneumatikon soma).

ICXC NIKA.
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That King Herod is not such a nice guy. I certainly wouldn’t invite him to any casserole and green jello supper at church. That’s for certain.
 
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