John the Elder and Aristion?

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I shall not hesitate also to put into ordered form for you, along with the interpretations, everything I learned carefully in the past from the elders and noted down carefully, for the truth of which I vouch. For unlike most people I took no pleasure in those who told many different stories, but only in those who taught the truth. Nor did I take pleasure in those who reported their memory of someone else’s commandments, but only in those who reported their memory of the commandments given by the Lord to the faith and proceeding from the Truth itself. And if by chance anyone who had been in attendance on the elders arrived, I made enquiries about the words of the elders—what Andrew or Peter had said, or Philip or Thomas or James or John or Matthew or any other of the Lord’s disciples, and whatever Aristion and John the Elder, the Lord’s disciples, were saying. For I did not think that information from the books would profit me as much as information from a living and surviving voice.
Papias of Hierapolis (A.D. 105)
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Who?
 
YHWH_Christ said:
I shall not hesitate also to put into ordered form for you, along with the interpretations, everything I learned carefully in the past from the elders and noted down carefully, for the truth of which I vouch. For unlike most people I took no pleasure in those who told many different stories, but only in those who taught the truth. Nor did I take pleasure in those who reported their memory of someone else’s commandments, but only in those who reported their memory of the commandments given by the Lord to the faith and proceeding from the Truth itself. And if by chance anyone who had been in attendance on the elders arrived, I made enquiries about the words of the elders—what Andrew or Peter had said, or Philip or Thomas or James or John or Matthew or any other of the Lord’s disciples, and whatever Aristion and John the Elder, the Lord’s disciples, were saying. For I did not think that information from the books would profit me as much as information from a living and surviving voice.
Papias of Hierapolis (A.D. 105)
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It’s very interesting in the sense that it shows how the continuing transmission of the Gospel was occurring in those few years after the death of John the Apostle.

Papias spoke to those somewhat old by then… who knew the EyeWitnesses…
 
Gorgias said:
Some say that “John the Elder” is the apostle John, but not all agree.
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Certainly Eusebius of Caesarea thought that John the Apostle and John the Elder were two different people.St Jerome thought the same.
 
Dan_Defender said:
Certainly Eusebius of Caesarea thought that John the Apostle and John the Elder were two different people.St Jerome thought the same.
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Any source Links to that?

John the Apostle who died c.100AD, just before that Message . was The Elder of that time

# 2 John 1-3)

1 The elder,

To the lady chosen by God and to her children, whom I love in the truth—and not I only, but also all who know the truth— 2 because of the truth, which lives in us and will be with us forever:

3 Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and from Jesus Christ, the Father’s Son, will be with us in truth and love.

The message is more important than having to know if John the Elder is John the Apostle.
 
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