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Detroit_Sue
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Of course I will be veiled, as my ideal, Mary the Mother of God was veiled!
She was the ULTIMATE feminist!
She was the ULTIMATE feminist!
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rcn
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What exactly is the point of this proposed event?
Is it some sort of attempt to show āFeminine unityā? No, it canāt be thatā¦ feminism is a bad thing, after all.
Is it an opportunity to draw attention to oneās self? Convince me that it is not.
A way to demonstrate an independence from what the Church teaches? Remember, the church does not request this, and has not for many years.
You may (and probably will) label this as an āattackā. But I will say (yet again) that it is notā¦ just another attempt to try to get someone to PLEASE explain their motivations. Which no one has done during any of the recent bicker-fests.
Again, there is NO hostile intent. So if you choose to blow up over these questionsā¦ if you decide to lapse into the unjustified āoh, why does everyone scorn and attack usā mode of self-pityā¦ well then, the responsibility lies with you.
Is it some sort of attempt to show āFeminine unityā? No, it canāt be thatā¦ feminism is a bad thing, after all.
Is it an opportunity to draw attention to oneās self? Convince me that it is not.
A way to demonstrate an independence from what the Church teaches? Remember, the church does not request this, and has not for many years.
You may (and probably will) label this as an āattackā. But I will say (yet again) that it is notā¦ just another attempt to try to get someone to PLEASE explain their motivations. Which no one has done during any of the recent bicker-fests.
Again, there is NO hostile intent. So if you choose to blow up over these questionsā¦ if you decide to lapse into the unjustified āoh, why does everyone scorn and attack usā mode of self-pityā¦ well then, the responsibility lies with you.
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Scotty_PGH
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A careful re-reading of the original post reveals the following:
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Lorrie
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As I said in the other thread, Iām definitely on-board with you Forest-Pine!
My doing this is not to say, āIām better than the women who arenāt wearing a coveringā. I want to do this because its something Iāve always wanted to do and for me it just seems right.
My doing this is not to say, āIām better than the women who arenāt wearing a coveringā. I want to do this because its something Iāve always wanted to do and for me it just seems right.
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netmilsmom
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Feminism is not the same as being feminine.
I hide in the back of different churches. I donāt like feeling like I am drawing attention to myself. I wear a cap that matches my hair or a headband type scarf. This is between me and God, not me and the congregation. I try to make it as unnoticable as posible.
The church does not request scapulars but many of us continue the tradition.
This is not self pity. It is a statement of fact. I have explained it on all of these threads.
I wear a veil to honor my husband who is still deciding whether or not to convert. My confessor told me that this is valid.
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athanasiusrc
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My wife and daughters wear veils to Mass and in our current parish have never felt uncomfortable. Itās not a Tridentine parish.
At our previous church my wife wore a veil and we always felt out of place.
There are at least three other women who wear veils at our parish and my wife has been sincerely asked by other women, usually younger ones, why she wears a veil. They seem genuinly interested and not mad.
That being said, we have found that in many parishes wearing veils, taking Communion on the tounge, suggesting that a choir learn some chant, asking about bells and incense, and having a large family instantly label you as freak and will get you banned from parish involvement.
Our store sells chapel caps and mantillas and I have to order them at least twice a month. aquinasandmore.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/store.BrowseCategory/Category/1187/
At our previous church my wife wore a veil and we always felt out of place.
There are at least three other women who wear veils at our parish and my wife has been sincerely asked by other women, usually younger ones, why she wears a veil. They seem genuinly interested and not mad.
That being said, we have found that in many parishes wearing veils, taking Communion on the tounge, suggesting that a choir learn some chant, asking about bells and incense, and having a large family instantly label you as freak and will get you banned from parish involvement.
Our store sells chapel caps and mantillas and I have to order them at least twice a month. aquinasandmore.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/store.BrowseCategory/Category/1187/
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bear06
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Let me see if a non-veil wearer can explain with an example.
If a pro-lifer goes out on a street corner alone holding a graphic sign of an aborted baby, is this person doing so because he wants attention? In reality, they are probably doing this because they feel that this is how God has called them to defend the unborn. Would they feel less intimidated if they had 100 friends with them? Having done this both ways I can tell you that you feel way less conspicuous and vulnerable when youāve got a bunch of people doing the same thing. And one last question? Is everyone called to defend the unborn the same way? No. There are those who are simply called to pray (which is no small feat)and there are those who are called to get themselves arrested. Is one way necessarily better than another? No. We need all kinds.
Hopefully this was considered, happy, happy, happy!
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RosaryLady
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We have several women that wear veils at our Church, and Iāve never thought badly of them, or heard anything said about them. Of course they are well known for their piety, so no one thinks they are just being pretentious.
I would like to wear one, and have thought about it, but I donāt want anyone to think that I am being pretentious. Does that make sense? I donāt want to cause anyone to think bad thoughts. I wouldnāt care if they gave me a hard time or said something to me, because I know itās between me and God. It wouldnāt bother me at all. Of course, itās a good lesson in tolerance, isnāt it?
I will probably wear one someday. Maybe on October 2.
God Bless
I would like to wear one, and have thought about it, but I donāt want anyone to think that I am being pretentious. Does that make sense? I donāt want to cause anyone to think bad thoughts. I wouldnāt care if they gave me a hard time or said something to me, because I know itās between me and God. It wouldnāt bother me at all. Of course, itās a good lesson in tolerance, isnāt it?
I will probably wear one someday. Maybe on October 2.
God Bless
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paramedicgirl
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Hey tadly, Iām a ānon-veiledā woman, but as I said before, the women who wear the veils do so out of humilty before the Lord, and I always feel that humility when they are present.
BTW, our altar girls wear a white crocheted head covering when serving.
I honestly donāt know if I would wear a head covering to Mass on Oct 2. I have never felt called to do so, and to wear one as an experiment might not be pleasing to God. I would be wearing it for the wrong reason, I guess.
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Forest-Pine
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Yes, Bear. Again, I greatly appreciate your support for us! It is most comforting!Let me see if a non-veil wearer can explain with an example.
If a pro-lifer goes out on a street corner alone holding a graphic sign of an aborted baby, is this person doing so because he wants attention? In reality, they are probably doing this because they feel that this is how God has called them to defend the unborn. Would they feel less intimidated if they had 100 friends with them? Having done this both ways I can tell you that you feel way less conspicuous and vulnerable when youāve got a bunch of people doing the same thing. And one last question? Is everyone called to defend the unborn the same way? No. There are those who are simply called to pray (which is no small feat)and there are those who are called to get themselves arrested. Is one way necessarily better than another? No. We need all kinds.
Hopefully this was considered, happy, happy, happy!
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Forest-Pine
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netmilsmom
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Well, with people here asking you to prove that you are not just trying to draw attention to yourself. I can understand why.We have several women that wear veils at our Church, and Iāve never thought badly of them, or heard anything said about them. Of course they are well known for their piety, so no one thinks they are just being pretentious.
I would like to wear one, and have thought about it, but I donāt want anyone to think that I am being pretentious. Does that make sense? I donāt want to cause anyone to think bad thoughts. I wouldnāt care if they gave me a hard time or said something to me, because I know itās between me and God. It wouldnāt bother me at all. Of course, itās a good lesson in tolerance, isnāt it?
I will probably wear one someday. Maybe on October 2.
God Bless
I got blasted on these threads at one point because I took my daughters to a different church for a Polish event and skipped communion there because I kneel. I didnāt want to appear overly pious, as some here have said, but prefer to kneel and receive on the tongue.
A poster came in and said(very strongly) that this was a cop out and I should not blame other people for missing communion.
I explained that I didnāt miss, I just went back to my own church for 6:30 mass. I never blamed anyone, but the poster took it that way.
Same for the veil.
Sometimes we either are either damned if we do and damned if we donāt.
We are all standing together on Oct. 2. If we all pray for each other, we are like one!
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netmilsmom
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Okay, how did you get the pictures of my kids, myself and my mom on here?
(just kidding!)
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Forest-Pine
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http://www.croshaydesign.com/CurrentStock/cloche_olive_sm.jpg
http://www.croshaydesign.com/CurrentStock/juliet_pink_sm.jpg
islandsurf.com/stores/1/images/products/medium/e564400_cog_MD.jpg
Hmmmā¦ think that last one is too baseball cap-ish with the bill?
http://www.croshaydesign.com/CurrentStock/juliet_pink_sm.jpg
islandsurf.com/stores/1/images/products/medium/e564400_cog_MD.jpg
Hmmmā¦ think that last one is too baseball cap-ish with the bill?
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netmilsmom
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netmilsmom
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I am making this one!!!
There is a band that goes over the top of a ladyās head.
This is perfect.
1945 Loop-The-Loop Snood
**MATERIALS:
3 60 yd. balls, American Thread Co. āStarā Pearl Cotton, Size 5, Lt Emerald or desired color.
14" very narrow elastic
Steel Hook Size 5 or 6
INSTRUCTIONS:
With single strand of thread, ch 1, *pull up about a 3/8 inch loop on hook, thread over and pull through,
sc in single loop, ( a single knot st) repeat from * 32 times, turn.
ROW 2: Sc in 4th sc from hook, * pull up a 3/8 inch loop on hook, thread over and pull through,sc in
single loop, repeat from *, (a double loop knot st) skip 1 sc, sc in next sc, * double loop knot st, skip 1
sc,sc in next sc, repeat from * across row, work 3 single loop knot sts, turn.
ROW 3: Sc in center of sc of double knot st of previous row, * double knot st, sc in next center sc of
next double knot st, repeat from * across row, work 3 single loop knot sts, turn.
Repeat Row 3 - 20 times, break thread. Gather at each end. Join thread at side and over elastic work
There is a band that goes over the top of a ladyās head.
This is perfect.
1945 Loop-The-Loop Snood
**MATERIALS:
3 60 yd. balls, American Thread Co. āStarā Pearl Cotton, Size 5, Lt Emerald or desired color.
14" very narrow elastic
Steel Hook Size 5 or 6
INSTRUCTIONS:
With single strand of thread, ch 1, *pull up about a 3/8 inch loop on hook, thread over and pull through,
sc in single loop, ( a single knot st) repeat from * 32 times, turn.
ROW 2: Sc in 4th sc from hook, * pull up a 3/8 inch loop on hook, thread over and pull through,sc in
single loop, repeat from *, (a double loop knot st) skip 1 sc, sc in next sc, * double loop knot st, skip 1
sc,sc in next sc, repeat from * across row, work 3 single loop knot sts, turn.
ROW 3: Sc in center of sc of double knot st of previous row, * double knot st, sc in next center sc of
next double knot st, repeat from * across row, work 3 single loop knot sts, turn.
Repeat Row 3 - 20 times, break thread. Gather at each end. Join thread at side and over elastic work
- 5 sc,sc over elastic and into next center sc of double knot st, repeat from * to end gathers, 5 sc over
elastic, sc over elastic and into end gathers, 5 sc over elastic, sc over elastic and into next center sc of
next double knot st, continue in same manner across remainder of snood, join, break thread.
BAND:
Ch 125 and work 124 sc on ch, ch 1, turn.
ROW 2: Work 1 loop st in each st, (loop st: wind thread over index finger, insert hook in st, draw
thread through pulling thread from under finger, drop loop from finger letting fall to right side of work
and complete sc) ch 1, turn.
ROW 3: Work 1 sc in each st, ch 1, turn.
Repeat Rows 2 & 3, 5 times, break thread.
Sew band to each end of snood.**
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Forest-Pine
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
My mother is an avid sewer. My little sis always took a liking to it and does a great job. It was my punishmentāno joke. Sis would have to read aloud (she hated) while I had to crochet or sew (I hated). We both so wished to trade places. All I remember of crocheting is how to chain stitch using my fingersā¦
Now my husband is a fantastic sewer. He likes the precision part. I like the planning and choosing fabrics part! (We have quite a large āstashā between us!)
Some of those are REALLY cute! And my guess would be that younger girls and women could pull off the more modern fashions without drawing attention to themselves.
My mother is an avid sewer. My little sis always took a liking to it and does a great job. It was my punishmentāno joke. Sis would have to read aloud (she hated) while I had to crochet or sew (I hated). We both so wished to trade places. All I remember of crocheting is how to chain stitch using my fingersā¦
Now my husband is a fantastic sewer. He likes the precision part. I like the planning and choosing fabrics part! (We have quite a large āstashā between us!)
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