Joke backfires

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And if my daughter’s boyfriend was someone who lived across an ocean, and whom she claimed to be “dating” for three years after spending only 12 days together, probably in several small blocks… I would be crying over her at night and terrified for her future.

I’m sorry, but that just is not real. How could it possibly be? He could literally be doing anything with anyone, and you would never know. Ditto to him, with you.

I do not understand this.
 
I disagree. You are putting too many constraints on a friendship. One can have all different types of friends. You even used the word chat “buddy”. A buddy is a type of friend. I consider all people friends, even if I’ve met them for the first time. It may not be a close friendship but it is, never the less, a friendship. And who are we to say how close they are. I think someone can have a very close friendship without ever meeting that person.
I agree completely with you, Srferdave!..:tanning:
 
PilgrimSong,
She seems like the type that idealizes. She was proud of you, and went around telling everyone - using your story to boast. When she realized the story was a joke, she probably felt betrayed (when she shouldn’t have), and reacted strongly because her pride was involved. She could be embarrassed for having gotten overly excited, running around telling everyone false news. But I think it might be even deeper than normal foolish embarrassment. (That can be laughed off, if someone has a sense of humor!) It seems to go back to the idealizing. I’ve got a feeling she has a misconception of you, probably indulged by preconceived notions and fantasy that sometimes comes from friendships that don’t have a constant face-to-face communication. Unrealistic friendships can get messy. CAN - not always, if people are grounded and unpresumptuous. I would be cautious, especially if she feels like she has a right to berate you. And for doing something that was a part of who you are! (light joking) Good friendships have strong elements of a sense of humor, acceptance, humility, reality, understanding, and comfort.

I’m saying this all without reading anybody’s else’s posts… sorry!!
And I could be totally wrong, too.
 
PilgrimSong, you friend is definitely overreacting.

It was just an April Fool’s joke, and I don’t see anything inappropriate about it. Even though it’s true that two weeks is a long time to let her believe a joke, it wasn’t a big deal to start with (it’s not like you said that someone died or something distastefule like that), and you should just tell her that you didn’t have time to contact her before.

You’ve already apologized twice, so it’s her turn to make a move if she wants to save your friendship. Keep her in your prayers 👍
 
How can one possibly have a personal and deep connection with a person about whom they know absolutely nothing, for certain, that they have been told, is true?
How do you know and love God, then?

Not picking on you - just adding another perspective. I think it is ENTIRELY possible to have a friendship with someone you chat with online, and have only met once or not even met at all! I belong to another forum of ladies with whom I’ve known for almost 4 years. I’ve only met one personally, but consider many of them dear friends. Who has the right to say it isn’t? It’s not fair to judge anyone’s relationships that way.
 
This is my last off-topic post in this thread. Presuming grandiosa reads it while not logged on, or gets another account. And I’ll add something on-topic near the bottom too :p.
Or it allows people to project more easily upon those people what they want to be true, without any real-life interactions getting in the way.

Yes, people lie in real life. Eventually they get caught out because the people who see them in real life start to realize things aren’t adding up. Only the most accomplished con-artists can get away with big lies for very long.
Not everyone on the internet is a liar, though. I have been honest with those I feel I can trust, and from what I gather, they have been honest with me. There’s no reason to lie when you discuss interests that you both have, for instance. There’s no point.
I know things about my friends because we got to know each other slowly, in a natural way. Getting closer over a long period of time. And every time something happened that would verify or disprove what they told me, it was clear that I had been told the truth. Everything fit. No, I don’t know everything for sure is 100% true, but I have never had reason to believe they are lying to me. I can read their body language at the time they speak to me, and there are a lot of good indicators of truthfulness (or not) there.
The same can be said about chatting with someone. Keeping up a long term lie online can be quite hard. One can easily forget their persona and give a different place they live, for instance, or some other error. And in the same manner as you- everything does fit with everyone I have talked to. I have no reason to believe I’m being lied to just because we’re typing and not talking.
If my teenage child’s only “close” friendships were online, I would worry about him or her and encourage interacting with real people. If I thought it was bad enough, I might even turn off my internet. Neglecting the formation of face-to-face, day-to-day relationships, in which one has obligations to the other person, in favor of nebulous online “sharing” that has the appearance of depth and gives a false feeling of intimacy is one of the unhealthiest things I can imagine. It’s a large part of the reason why our culture is failing on so many levels. People are living in sanitized fantasies over which they have total control, instead of learning how to deal with the sometimes messy, but ultimately more rewarding push-and-pull, give-and-take of real relationships with real people who are in their lives all the time.
I’m 19, not really a teenage child. And as a writer whose work revolves around things that aren’t ‘real,’ the statement amuses. “Obligations” to people? That sounds so strict. As for false feelings… we have false feelings over people in real life as well. All of what you say can be given a RL example. And even more so, in real life you can be manipulated to do things for other people that just want to use you- “watch my kids for me” “hey, can you drive them all to school today?” etc. Which seems much worse than procrastinating on homework to talk to someone for an hour.
And if my daughter’s boyfriend was someone who lived across an ocean, and whom she claimed to be “dating” for three years after spending only 12 days together, probably in several small blocks… I would be crying over her at night and terrified for her future.
Twice- once for three days in Poland, and I was in London for nine-and-a-half over New Years. And claimed? Ooh, dating is in quotations too. :rolleyes:

Yes, we’re dating. We love each other, and all that other fun cliche teen stuff that you hear on TV. For three years, committed, in constant contact online and over phone. Met twice.
I’m sorry, but that just is not real. How could it possibly be? He could literally be doing anything with anyone, and you would never know. Ditto to him, with you.
I do not understand this.
Thank you very much for implying both my love and I are cheaters because we don’t live in the same neighborhood. As for real… how is it not real? How is being faithful and trusting to someone that gives the same to you, a lie? :rolleyes: I don’t understand the automatic distrust.

Now on-topic! I agree with SBTheresa: She might have bragged about you being a missionary, and then had to take it back. And adding “it was just a joke” makes it seem like you may not take missionary work seriously- which may have hurt too. As said before, wait a bit, pray a bit, and hopefully it’ll smooth out.
 
Hi all,

I’ve read the entire thread, even the ones that sorta strayed. Thank you everyone for replying. Yes, I think my friend has idealized me. I am not sure why. I don’t think I’ve bragged or stretched the truth about myself to make me seem more wonderful than I am. I certainly haven’t tried to do that. I really don’t understand why she has idealized me, but I’ve always sensed it, even when I visited her in person.

We’ve e-mailed back and forth a couple times today. I do think she overreacted, for a couple reasons. Yes, she had told others what a wonderful thing we were doing (which I don’t quite understand, for no one in her real life knows me–I never mention anything about her to my friends who live near me) but I had NO idea she had done this until yesterday.

She says I jested about sacred things, which I was NOT doing, IMHO. I wasn’t making fun of people who are missionaries; I greatly admire them. I did drag the thing out, but I never planned any of this…I kept waiting for her to respond somehow but she never did. Then my dh had minor surgery and we went away for Easter. I figured she either wasn’t paying much attention, was thinking to herself what a goof I was, or just didn’t think it was funny. I never dreamed she would be so hurt. I’d have never done it in the first place, or I’d have told her right away it was a joke, OR, if I found out yesterday, I’d have just told her, “the African missionary thing didn’t work out” and leave it there.

I feel like I’ve apologized enough. I am truly sorry and she says she accepts that. BUT, I told her I’d thought of quietly leaving her life, and she wrote back that she’d be heartbroken if I did that. That is what I want to do, but I don’t want to hurt her further. Just want to go my own way, and pray for her when she comes to mind.

This may sound heartless, but I don’t really think I’d miss her the way she says she’d miss me. Do I stay friends just so she won’t be devastated?
 
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