Joseph Smith's Seer Stone Photos Released

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lax16 said:
What would be the value in reading these?
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From what I’ve read on Mormon forums, some LDS members view the Gnostic gospels as containing the “small and precious” things that they believe that the Catholic Church removed, or lost, from the Bible canon.

Pretty much, if they find a whiff of something they slightly agree with in a Gnostic “gospel”, they cherry pick it is evidence for the corruption of Holy Scripture. Never mind that the Gnostics were anti-materialists and Mormons are materialists. The only thing they really have in common is an idea that secret knowledge is what Saves.
 
RebeccaJ said:
From what I’ve read on Mormon forums, some LDS members view the Gnostic gospels as containing the “small and precious” things that they believe that the Catholic Church removed, or lost, from the Bible canon.

Pretty much, if they find a whiff of something they slightly agree with in a Gnostic “gospel”, they cherry pick it is evidence for the corruption of Holy Scripture. Never mind that the Gnostics were anti-materialists and Mormons are materialists. The only thing they really have in common is an idea that secret knowledge is what Saves.
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So would those Mormons who are open to the idea that the Gnostic writings contain truth believe that the Holy Spirit didn’t guide those who compiled the Bible?
 
adrift said:
He is referring to apocryphal books mostly from the heresies of agnostics. It is hardly a true comparison as these books were not accepted by the Church where as the BOM is a church document.
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“heresies of agnostics” - I should read those, why?

Not sure why TOm would suggest reading such things? One would think such things should be avoided.
 
lax16 said:
So would those Mormons who are open to the idea that the Gnostic writings contain truth believe that the Holy Spirit didn’t guide those who compiled the Bible?
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Sure, they believe that, but not that the guidance was infallible.
 
lax16 said:
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Absolutely no value. I believe what he was trying to do is say that Christianity has these odd things in them just as it is pointed out that LDS does. So why are we pointing fingers at their Church when are Church has such a checkered past.

The problem with his argument is that the literature he is pointing to was not accepted as scriptural. It was agnostic and most was written in the second century. Hardly a comparison to the main document of theirs.
 
RebeccaJ said:
🤷 I don’t know how to explain why they believe this, as I’ve never gotten an answer from LDS sources that makes any sense.
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Before TOm, I have never heard of this before. Thanks for trying to explain! 🙂
 
From “What do Mormons believe about the Holy Ghost?”
The Holy Ghost is a member of the Godhead, along with God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. The Holy Ghost is one in purpose with the Father and the Son, but is a separate being. Through Joseph Smith, the Lord revealed:
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The Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us. (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22)
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The special mission of the Holy Ghost is to testify of the Father and the Son, to reveal the truth (Book of Mormon, Moroni 10:4,5), to comfort us (John 14:26), and to sanctify us. He is a divine guide and teacher.
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In short, the Holy Ghost is A god sent to help Christians, but… If Jesus set up a Church that failed within 60 years, it stands to reason the Holy Spirit could’ve tried to get some inspired texts written and failed.

Not too sure how the LDS knows that the canon of the Protestant Bible is correct, outside of a burning in the bosom.
 
adrift said:
Absolutely no value. I believe what he was trying to do is say that Christianity has these odd things in them just as it is pointed out that LDS does. So why are we pointing fingers at their Church when are Church has such a checkered past.

The problem with his argument is that the literature he is pointing to was not accepted as scriptural. It was agnostic and most was written in the second century. Hardly a comparison to the main document of theirs.
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I see. When TOm said that I am not giving these writings enough attention, he did not mean to read them but to keep them in mind when comparing the beginnings of Christianity with the beginnings of Mormonism. Thanks for pointing that out because I definitely misunderstood that part of his post.

Yes, agnostic heresies are definitely problematic for most Christians.
 
sheepcat said:
From “What do Mormons believe about the Holy Ghost?”

In short, the Holy Ghost is A god sent to help Christians, but… If Jesus set up a Church that failed within 60 years, it stands to reason the Holy Spirit could’ve tried to get some inspired texts written and failed.

Not too sure how the LDS knows that the canon of the Protestant Bible is correct, outside of a burning in the bosom.
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Yes, either the Holy Spirit stayed with the Church as Jesus promised or it did not.

Mormons must believe the Holy Spirit was at least inconsistent to support their view.
 
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