JP II apologizies

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I am reading “The New Anti-Catholicism” by Jenkins and there was a statement I was wondering if ya’ll could help me with. “A writer in Slate magazine effectively blamed Catholics themselves for any stigma they suffer: ‘If anti-Catholic bigotry exists in America, it might have something to do with the Catholic Church’s past conduct. Just this weekend, His Holiness John Paul II conceded as much when he finally got around to apologizing to the world for 2000 years of Catholic wickedness. He apologized for the forced conversions, for the murderous Crusades, and the Inquisition.’”(page 2). Granted the author was refering to an Anti-Catholics remarks so the credibility of the person talking is in question but, I presume that the apology in question made by John Paul the Second was a really thing. I was wondering if anyone knew where I could aquire a look at the apology in question and the “Catholic wickedness”, “Forced Conversions”, the Crusades and Inquistion. And the role and scale that the pope was referring to and the actually hisotical scale. Thanks and God bless.
 
Try the Vatican website. It has papal documents going all the way back to at least Boniface VIII.
 
As for this statement…
“A writer in Slate magazine effectively blamed Catholics themselves for any stigma they suffer: 'If anti-Catholic bigotry exists in America, it might have something to do with the Catholic Church’s past conduct.”
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Is it the authors contention that it is reasonable to be bigoted toward Catholics because of some rather fuzzy understanding of events that occurred centruies ago? That’s rather weird, no? Likewise, would bigotry be justified against today’s US citizens because of the evil acts of past citizens against Native Americans? Is bigotry ever justified?

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

The admission of past sins of Catholics by John Paul II is no justification for bigotry. I disagree that John Paul II “conceded as much.”

I looked for the Christian community without sin, and alas, I found none.
 
It could be his comments on the treatment of Jews by the church history wise.
 
Daniel Marsh:
It could be his comments on the treatment of Jews by the church history wise.
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the perjorative comments were from a 13 March 2000 article by Jack Shafer of Slate magazine. He appears to be referring to John Paul II’s remarks that “weekend” on 12 Mar 2000, here: Homily, 12 March 2000, “Day for pardon”

Slate says perjoratively that “he finally got around to apologizing to the world for 2000 years of Catholic wickedness.” which is a statement of ignorance, as in 1988 John Paul II wrote,

“As the Successor of Peter, I ask that in this year of mercy the Church, strong in the holiness which she receives from her Lord, should kneel before God and implore forgiveness for the past and present sins of her sons and daughters.” (John Paul II, *Incarnationis mysterium, *29 Nov 1998)

The Church has been asking for forgiveness for her sins for the past 2000 years.

Slate said, “[John Paul II]* apologized for the forced conversions, for the murderous Crusades, and the Inquisition.” *I didn’t see him mention these things in his 13 March Homily, however.
 
It is just another attack by an anti-Catholic who wouldn’t hesitate to use even an apology as a source for criticism.

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itsjustdave1988:
As for this statement…

Is it the authors contention that it is reasonable to be bigoted toward Catholics because of some rather fuzzy understanding of events that occurred centruies ago? That’s rather weird, no? Likewise, would bigotry be justified against today’s US citizens because of the evil acts of past citizens against Native Americans? Is bigotry ever justified?

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

The admission of past sins of Catholics by John Paul II is no justification for bigotry. I disagree that John Paul II “conceded as much.”

I looked for the Christian community without sin, and alas, I found none.
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A reason does not have to be reasonable.
 
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