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👍 Pope John Paul II has done an awesome job as our church leader. He makes you proud to say your Catholic, when there are so many who try and ruin it for devout Roman Catholics.
 
I see him in a diffrent light (Please Specify) Is what I choose. He was elected by men who were guided by the Holy Spirit and it is providential that he is pope. How can I disagree with that?!?! I think the Holy Spirit is the best judge and he did a fine job in picking our current pope.
 
I voted, “I see him in a different light” because there was not an option for “living Saint among us”. We don’t get to vote but we can pray and thank God everyday for giving us such a defender of the Faith. A man of God, who, inspite of very childish members and sadly many “disobedient” members has not backed down.
Peace on earth to men of good will.
LaVada
 
I don’t get to elect the Pope…I will not judge him; I will always pray for him.
 
One day he will leave us–after that it ought to take about 45 minutes to make him St. John Paul the Great!
 
Excuse me, John Carroll, but OUR Holy Father would be the last one on earth who would want Canon Law bent to the point of sainting him before His (God’s) time.

Peace and all good,

Thomas2
 
I heard Father Corapi today say that criticism of the Holy Father is his personal litmus test. When someone is critical of the Holy Father, he knows they have an agenda and they lose credibility with him.
 
I think that JPII has been a good Pope. This has been a difficult time to be pope, maybe not the most difficult in history, but nevertheless difficult. He is the right person for the moment, that is why the Holy Spirit guided the conclave to elect him.

The next Pope I hope is somewhat different, possibly having different strengths. I think that if the next Pope were open to eliminating mandatory celebacy for priests that we would see a much stronger church. Before anyone jumps on me for that one, please remember that priests weren’t always celebate, and all of the Eastern Rite Catholics, and those in the Western Rite who have come from Anglican churches are married even today. Without mandatory celibacy we would have a much stronger priesthood, and we could likely go back to having 2 or 3 priests in a parish. (remember those days?😃

So, in summary, he is great, and I also look forward to our next leader. Please pray for the Pope, and for the Curia who will elect the next one.
 
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I think that if the next Pope were open to eliminating mandatory celebacy for priests that we would see a much stronger church.
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And you came to that conclusion on what evidence? We have both other rites and other faiths who do have this and so we have a “history” of what married clegy would do for the church. What exactly do you see as the benefit? Why would you think the church in all her years of experience with human nature has maintained her celibacy discipline (and please spare me the inherited property tale).
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and we could likely go back to having 2 or 3 priests in a parish. (remember those days?
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Do you really see the average Catholic parish as having 2 or three separate houses for two or three clergyman and their families? Do you have any idea what the financial overhead would be? Families living in this close of a situation might find it extremely burdensome if they do not have much in common.

I should also point out for your consideration that neither those rites who allow marriage, or other faiths are finding it much easier to obtain “new blood” than does the RCC - many women no longer wish to live the kind of life with all of its sacrifice and “fishbowl” aspects that being the wife of someone in full time ministry entails. Many women today wish to pursue thir own career interests rather than subordinate themselves to the husband’s responsibilities.

How would you suggest that we handle our religious order communities where not only is the ministry exercised, but an intensive community life of spirituality, community life and bonding?
 
Excellent questions Sophia and I wonder what kind of answers you will receive.

In fact a married clergy might actually result in less priests because it would lose its appeal to the homosexuals 😉
 
I just wish that Pope John Paul II were as authoritarian as dissident and liberal Catholics think he is. A little more head knocking of modernist bishops is in order.
 
I think several may concur. He is firm on teaching and advising but not too good on the discipline end. I’d like to see a few red hats and purple robes sent back to wardrobe.
 
Saint John Paul II the Great, I hope to see this title given to him in my lifetime with God’s grace (God’s grace that I live long enough to see it:) )
 
I will refrain from using the word “great” in relation to John Paul II. I have also grown weary of this “sainthood now” bit.

I do feel that he did wonders for the Church in the world, and for humanity with his travel and firm stand on the dignity of all stages of human life.

I don’t feel that he was strong enough when it came to housekeeping within the Church.
He is firm on teaching and advising but not too good on the discipline end. I’d like to see a few red hats and purple robes sent back to wardrobe.
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Sums up my thoughts nicely.
 
This premature cannonization of JP II is wearing thin with me too. Also, it does a great disservice to him.

We have a spiritual obligation to pray for the dead. With so many people running their mouths assuring us that JP II is already in heaven, I fear a great many prayers are not being sent to God for the repose of his soul.

Until the Church officially declares him a saint, we should pray, without ceasing, for his soul. I don’t presume to judge the state of his soul. That’s God’s job. But what I do know is that priests, bishops and popes will be judged by a much higher standard than us ordinary, run of the mill types. To whom much is given, much is expected.

Here’s a wonderful prayer I’ve been using that I found in the book Purgatory Explained by the Lives and Legends of the Saints, published by Tan:

**O God, in Thine all-wise providence Thou didst ordain that Thy servant John Paul II should rule the See of Peter, holding the supreme office of Vicar of Our Lord Jesus Christ and Pastor of the Universal Church. We beseech Thee to reward his labors for Thy sheep and to deal mercifully with his faults, admitting him speedily into the company of the blessed, there to rejoice exceedingly in Thy holy presence and to enjoy forever the recompense of his holy labors. This we ask through Jesus Christ Thy Son our Lord. Amen.
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