"Jube domne" vs. "Jube Domine"?

[Geremia]

Why when one in private recites the Liturgy of the Hours in Latin, one says “Jube Domine,” but in public one says “Jube domne?”

 

[tee_eff_em]

Why when one in private recites the Liturgy of the Hours in Latin, one says “Jube Domine,” but in public one says “Jube domne?”

Are you sure public/private is the right distinction? Frankly, I had never encountered the word before (or if I had, I presumed it to be an abbreviation, perhaps for metrical purposes), but Stelten’s *Dictionary of Ecclesiastical Latin *lists it as meaning “sir”. That is: Capital-D *Dominus *means “Lord”, while lowercase-d (and i-less) *domnus *means “sir”.

An example I found on Google indicates, eg, that a priest, begging a blessing from God, says *“Jube, Domine” *while a deacon, begging a blessing from the priest, says “Jube, domne”.

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[Acolythus_sum]

A solo, one says “iube, Domine” because he is asking God for the Benediction, which he then reads. * In choro vel in communi*, the Lector says “iube, domne” and the Priest reads the Benediction. I think that is right, but I’ll have to double-check the rubrics. The rubrics are available both in English and Latin at officiumdivinum.org, in addition to (of course) in your Breviary.

 

[StevenDunn]

A solo, one says “iube, Domine” because he is asking God for the Benediction, which he then reads. * In choro vel in communi*, the Lector says “iube, domne” and the Priest reads the Benediction. I think that is right, but I’ll have to double-check the rubrics. The rubrics are available both in English and Latin at officiumdivinum.org, in addition to (of course) in your Breviary.

It’s late and I’m about to go to bed, but off the top of my head this sounds correct. Domne refers to a person, while Domine refers to God. This is also the case in the Mass, when the deacon asks for the priest’s blessing before the gospel. The deacon says: “Jube, Domne, benedicere.” However, if only the priest is celebrating, he says instead: “Jube, Domine, benedicere.” And, as you’ve already mentioned, the same applies in the Office.

Interestingly, Domne is a medieval Latin corruption of Domine.

 

[Pregustator]

At the seminary I went to, it was always “domne”, never “domine”.

Interestingly, we began our grace at table in Latin the same way, “Iube Domne, benedicere,” except when the rector was present. Our rector was a bishop, and in his presence it was “iube Revendissime Pater, benedicere.” But we wouldn’t say “Reverendissime Pater” at the office in his presence, only “Domne”.