Judaism, Yom Kippur

[followerofGod]

…In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and you shall not do any work … For on that day he shall provide atonement for you to cleanse you from all your sins before the L-RD. -Leviticus 16:29-30

do Catholics celebrate this day of Yom Kippur ? if not why? it is in the book of Leviticus…

 

[dosdog]

…In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and you shall not do any work … For on that day he shall provide atonement for you to cleanse you from all your sins before the L-RD. -Leviticus 16:29-30

do Catholics celebrate this day of Yom Kippur ? if not why? it is in the book of Leviticus…

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[Valke2]

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What does that have to do with Yom Kippur?

 

[ricmat]

A sacrifice for atonement, and a thanksgiving.

 

[ricmat]

What does that have to do with Yom Kippur?

A sacrifice for atonement, and a thanksgiving.

 

[Valke2]

A sacrifice for atonement, and a thanksgiving.

But that is the sacrifice made by Jesus, right? It is not a day of atonement for Christians, is it?

 

[Rawb]

Valke2, I don’t fully understand Yom Kippur, but as to your statement:

Jesus made the sacrifice, yes, but He was/is the sacrifice, for us. The sacrifice He made was Himself, made for us. That sacrifice atoned (sp?) for our sins. At the Mass we believe that sacrifice transcends time and we are made present at the foot of the Cross. Therefor, everyday, every time, a Mass is offered that is a moment (or day if you like) of atonement.

I’m not sure how that connects specifically with Yom Kippur…I think the closest thing we have would probably be Good Friday, being a specific day related to our atonement (and ironically, the only day of the year when Mass is not offered! )

 

[Yerusalyim]

The biggest reason is because Yom Kippur is a JEWISH festival, the people of ISRAEL were ordered to observe it. It’s observation is mandated in the MOSAIC law. Gentile Christians are not subject or responsible to the 613 Commandments of the Mosaic Law. That’s why Christians don’t observe it or other Jewish festivals.

The other theological issues are also true, but what I’ve written, I assure you, is the biggests and best reason. The Jewish Christians including Paul , James and Peter DID continue to observe Mosaic Law giving it a Christian meaning…Paul argued intently and convincingly that the requirements of the Mosaic Law to include circumcision and the observance of these festivals NOT be foisted upon gentile converts.

 

[b_justb]

…In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and you shall not do any work … For on that day he shall provide atonement for you to cleanse you from all your sins before the L-RD. -Leviticus 16:29-30

do Catholics celebrate this day of Yom Kippur ? if not why? it is in the book of Leviticus…

Here are the rest of those verses so we can see the entirety of the regulation in this section of Scripture:

LEVITICUS 16:31 It is a sabbath of solemn rest to you, and you shall afflict yourselves; it is a statute for ever. [sup]32[/sup] And the priest who is anointed and consecrated as priest in his father’s place shall make atonement, wearing the holy linen garments; [sup]33[/sup] he shall make atonement for the sanctuary, and he shall make atonement for the tent of meeting and for the altar, and he shall make atonement for the priests and for all the people of the assembly. [sup]34[/sup] And this shall be an everlasting statute for you, that atonement may be made for the people of Israel once in the year because of all their sins." And Moses did as the LORD commanded him.

I mean no disrespect to the Jewish people or faith. But when it comes to the various Jewish Feasts, how is it that any Jew really celebrates them? Where is the High Priest? Where are the various other ministering Priests? Where is the Temple? Where are the animal sacrifices? We have this great wealth of information contained in Sacred Scripture that spells out with no uncertainty the times and fashions of these great feasts. But it is simply impossible to celebrate them because there is no Temple.

It must be a point of great pain for the religious Jews. I am sorry for that pain, but what do you do? How do follow these mandates from Scripture?

p.s. Single Star Troll, you have been thwarted out of spite. No other reason, just spite.

 

[Valke2]

The biggest reason is because Yom Kippur is a JEWISH festival, the people of ISRAEL were ordered to observe it. It’s observation is mandated in the MOSAIC law. Gentile Christians are not subject or responsible to the 613 Commandments of the Mosaic Law. That’s why Christians don’t observe it or other Jewish festivals.

The other theological issues are also true, but what I’ve written, I assure you, is the biggests and best reason. The Jewish Christians including Paul , James and Peter DID continue to observe Mosaic Law giving it a Christian meaning…Paul argued intently and convincingly that the requirements of the Mosaic Law to include circumcision and the observance of these festivals NOT be foisted upon gentile converts.

Of Course you are right. Most of Leviticus was directed toward the people of Israel and more specifically, their priests.

 

[Yerusalyim]

I mean no disrespect to the Jewish people or faith. But when it comes to the various Jewish Feasts, how is it that any Jew really celebrates them? Where is the High Priest? Where are the various other ministering Priests? Where is the Temple? Where are the animal sacrifices? We have this great wealth of information contained in Sacred Scripture that spells out with no uncertainty the times and fashions of these great feasts. But it is simply impossible to celebrate them because there is no Temple.

It must be a point of great pain for the religious Jews. I am sorry for that pain, but what do you do? How do follow these mandates from Scripture?

And thus you have the development of Rabbinical Judaism. The observance of the Law outside the Temple. This really began to develop when The Kingdom of Judah was taken into Babylonian Captivity…they asked and began to answer the question, HOW do we retain our identity as God’s chosen people with no Temple? Thus developed the Synagogue as the center of Jewish Worship and learning. Many of the laws are indeed suspended until the temple is rebuilt. There are still people identified as priests, though no one as High Priest.

So, in Rabbinical Judaism the Kashrut laws and those surrounding observances are still followed, whereas the specifics of temple worship are suspended.

 

[b_justb]

And thus you have the development of Rabbinical Judaism. The observance of the Law outside the Temple. This really began to develop when The Kingdom of Judah was taken into Babylonian Captivity…they asked and began to answer the question, HOW do we retain our identity as God’s chosen people with no Temple? Thus developed the Synagogue as the center of Jewish Worship and learning. Many of the laws are indeed suspended until the temple is rebuilt. There are still people identified as priests, though no one as High Priest.

So, in Rabbinical Judaism the Kashrut laws and those surrounding observances are still followed, whereas the specifics of temple worship are suspended.

Thanks. Is there (was there) a movement to continue the worship like it was before the Temple was established? Moses had a tabernacle. Something along those lines?

 

[Yerusalyim]

Thanks. Is there (was there) a movement to continue the worship like it was before the Temple was established? Moses had a tabernacle. Something along those lines?

I’ve not read an analysis of this, but my own analysis is that at least in part of the reason behind the split between Judah and Israel…The king of Judah wanted the temple centered in Jerusalem to Unite the nation…resented by the other tribes…

 

[strngrnrth]

The Jewish holidays have been on my mind for a while. Is there anyone here who can tell me why the Jewish New Year is in the fall if the first month is in the spring?

 

[Valke2]

Well, the most obvious reason (but one which doesn’t explain much) is that the Torah tells us to celebrate in the 7th month.

 

[b_justb]

I’ve not read an analysis of this, but my own analysis is that at least in part of the reason behind the split between Judah and Israel…The king of Judah wanted the temple centered in Jerusalem to Unite the nation…resented by the other tribes…

Was there some sort of confusion as to what was Scripture and what was not? The Torah has 3 places where all the feasts are described. I would think of all Jewish Sacred Scripture the Books of Moses would not be contested in Jewish history. Am I wrong? Or are we talking politics and not religion? Or maybe a combination of both?

The feasts were prescribed long before the temple was build by Solomon. With the destruction of the temple by the Romans wouldn’t it be logical to revert back to the liturgical practices prior to the temples building? If the idea of central worship being shifted over to synagogues instead of the temple occurred when the Babylonians took over Jerusalem, why did the practice continue after the temple was rebuilt in Daniels day? The Gospels and letters of Paul speak of the synagogue and the Temple was being used at the same time.

Does all of this tie into the shift from the Levitical priesthood over to the Maccabean priesthood? Or is it that I am clueless on all of this?

 

[b_justb]

shameless bump

 

[Valke2]

Thanks. Is there (was there) a movement to continue the worship like it was before the Temple was established? Moses had a tabernacle. Something along those lines?

I’m not aware of any such movement. I suppose the priests may have tried something along those lines.