Jude.
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GEddie
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The 1st 2 are the same human being; the third is a book
written by him.The 1st 2 are the same human being; the third is a book
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A_G
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Jude the Apostle (Thaddeus), and St. Jude whom we have a Novena for, are the same St. Jude. Jude, the book in the New Testament, is a book written by St. Jude.
In other words, you are correct, they are all the same St. Jude.
He is a very special patron of mine, and he will pray for you and help you in hopeless and desperate situations. St. Jude thanks you for all your help. Please keep praying for us!
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Swiss_Guy
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The first two are the same person, the last one was a book written by Christ’s brother (although others don’t seem to be thinking along the same lines.
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patrick457
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Matthew (10:1-4) and Mark (3:13-18), in their lists of the Apostles, names a “Thaddaeus” (or in some manuscripts of Matthew, “Lebbaeus” or even “Lebbaeus called Thaddaeus” or vice versa), while Luke (6:12-16) speaks of a “Judas of James” in place of Thaddaeus. At one point, John speaks of a “Judas (not the Iscariot)” (14:22). So yeah, both are the same person according to the traditional idea.
The author identifies himself as “a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James.” I would quote from Wikipedia here (yeah, I’m a lazy person
):The Epistle title is written as follows: “Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James” (NRSV). There is a dispute as to whether “brother” means someone who has the same father and mother, or a half-brother or cousin or more distant familial relationship. This dispute over the true meaning of “brother” grew as the doctrine of the Virgin Birth evolved.
The debate has continued over the author’s identity as the apostle, the brother of Jesus, both, or neither. Some scholars have argued that since the author of that letter has not identified himself as an apostle and actually refers to the apostles as a third party, he cannot be identified with the Jude who is listed as one of the Twelve. Others have drawn the opposite conclusion, i.e., that as an apostle, he would not have made such a claim on his own behalf. The many Judes, named in the gospels and among the relatives of Jesus, and his relationship to James the Just called the brother of Jesus has caused much confusion. Not a lot is known of Jude, which would explain the apparent need to identify him by reference to his better-known brother. It is agreed that he is not the Jude who betrayed Jesus, Judas Iscariot.
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