Just curiosity, is angelology part of catholic religion?

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do u guys believe in a heirarchy of angels?
you know, seraphims and such?
 
Since I was a little girl of 5yrs old I believed in Angels because I also believed in the devil and demons and ghosts. So every night I would look at the photo of my guardian angel on the wall of my bed to help me feel safe.
When I was in college I used to pray for a education angel to be with me when I would take a test.

I ask the Angels to protect me in times of danger like when driving on the freeways.

I ask the Angels to heal me when I am ill.

But most of all I always pray to God to take care of me.

The study of Angels is part of the Catholic religion because you can find lots of Catholic websites with Angel information.

Angels are the messengers of God.
 
i’m just curious about angelology and if that is a
catholic thing. is it officially a part of catholic beliefs
and teachings? does it cross over to prodestant beliefs
as well? is it in judaism and islam?

i don’t know much about it but i find it interesting.
i wonder if many christians know about the order of angels.
 
The existence of angels are part of revelation, so yes, they are part of Catholic teaching.
 
I’ll speak from a Catholic point of view since tha is what I am. Yes, angels do exist, the Church teaches of thier existance. We even know the names of some of them because they are in sacred scripture. Gabriel, Michael, Uriel, are some that come to mind form the Bible. A great prayer is to St. michael the Archangel. Our Lady Mary, and others have spoken, met with and collaberated with angels. Angels are not deceaced humans like some protestants believe, but thier own creation of God, you cannot become an angel, nor would you want to. Tey have a special relationship with God. There will be a time when angels will fight against fallen angels.
The rest is Common Catholic belief but I am not sure how solid. There are seven named angels or Arch angels. Lucifer Was an angel. There are guardian angels.
 
i’m not really asking if u believe they exist but
is their heirarchy a part of catholic teaching.
example:

First Sphere (Old Testament sources)
Seraphim
Cherubim
Thrones (Gr. thronos) (New Testament sources)

Second Sphere (New Testament sources)
Dominions (Gr. kuriotes)
Virtues (Gr. dunamis)
Powers (Gr. exousia)[1]

Third Sphere
Principalities (Gr. arche)[2]
Archangels
Angels

is this commonly taught in the catholic faith?
 
WindyHair said:
i’m just curious about angelology and if that is a
catholic thing. is it officially a part of catholic beliefs
and teachings? does it cross over to prodestant beliefs
as well? is it in judaism and islam?

i don’t know much about it but i find it interesting.
i wonder if many christians know about the order of angels.
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If I recall correctly, the heirarchy of angels are alluded to in the book of Revelation among other NT and Jewish sources.

While angels themselves are a part of Catholic belief (and I do teach my PREP students about them), we do not place any significance on the heirarchy, i.e. “praying to a seraphim is better than praying to an archangel” and the heirarchy is not routinely taught - at least in the PREP curriculum in my area.

That help?
 
The 9 choirs are part of tradition. They are not dogmatic. You might want to consult Ludwig Ott’s Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma to determine the weight of the choirs.

But here is Catholic.org giving Scriptural and traditional references to the 9 Choirs.
 
i find angelology very interesting.
because i think i read somewhere
that satan was a cherub. i don’t
think he was a seraph.

but anyways, guardian and protector
angels such as seraphs and powers
allude to battles in heaven. do catholics
believe in wars in heaven?
such as bad angels and good angels fighting?
 
TheDoctor said:
If I recall correctly, the heirarchy of angels are alluded to in the book of Revelation among other NT and Jewish sources.

While angels themselves are a part of Catholic belief (and I do teach my PREP students about them), we do not place any significance on the heirarchy, i.e. “praying to a seraphim is better than praying to an archangel” and the heirarchy is not routinely taught - at least in the PREP curriculum in my area.

That help?
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so you don’t teach the difference between
a seraphim and an angel right?
because you wouldn’t be able to pray
to a seraphim anyways, because
according to angelology, it’s angels
who carry the prayers to the other higher angels.

so i take it this is more of a jewish thing.
 
WindyHair said:
so you don’t teach the difference between
a seraphim and an angel right?
because you wouldn’t be able to pray
to a seraphim anyways, because
according to angelology, it’s angels
who carry the prayers to the other higher angels.

so i take it this is more of a jewish thing.
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Nope, that is not correct my brother.

In the beginning, before there was anything else, there was only God in his three divine persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). He created a group of spiritual beings (i.e. no bodies) which we call angels. No matter what rank you give them, they are all angels. So I don’t teach the difference between a seraphim and an angel becasue there is no difference to us. All angels can carry our prayers to God.

Now, God may have split his angels up into order, ranks, groups, whatever to suit His divine purpose, but that makes no difference to those of us here on Earth.

If this is still unclear, please keep asking.
 
I think the Lucifer was supposed to be in the highest order of the angels…I read it somewhere…also there were angels from all the choirs that rebelled…My guess is Lucifer might have been an Arch angel
 
“Angelology” simply means “teaching about angels,” just as “Christology” means “teaching about Christ” and “Mariology” means “teaching about Mary.”

Some forms of gnosticism, however go into a very involved angelology that conflicts with Christian teaching.
 
TheDoctor said:
Nope, that is not correct my brother.

In the beginning, before there was anything else, there was only God in his three divine persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). He created a group of spiritual beings (i.e. no bodies) which we call angels. No matter what rank you give them, they are all angels. So I don’t teach the difference between a seraphim and an angel becasue there is no difference to us. All angels can carry our prayers to God.

Now, God may have split his angels up into order, ranks, groups, whatever to suit His divine purpose, but that makes no difference to those of us here on Earth.

If this is still unclear, please keep asking.
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well according to Aquinas, it seems he believes there is a
difference between angels such as Seraphs and Cherubs.
 
WindyHair said:
well according to Aquinas, it seems he believes there is a
difference between angels such as Seraphs and Cherubs.
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In ascending order, Archangels are of the lowest sphere. Next up come Dominations, then Thrones, Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Cherubim…Lucifer was a Seraphim, and yes they’re the highest order of angels. Saints Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel are all Seraphim.

St. Hilary wrote that, “Everything which seems to be empty is filled with the angels of God, and there is no place that is not inhabited by them as they go about their ministry.”

Each time a Mass is said, thousands of angels are present and are bowing in adoration before Our Lord, the Eucharist.

Your guardian angel stays with you until death and accompanies you to heaven, as your companion forever. If a soul is lost to hell, the Guardian angel of the soul of the damned joins Mary’s Choir in heaven.
 
WindyHair said:
i find angelology very interesting.
because i think i read somewhere
that satan was a cherub. i don’t
think he was a seraph.

but anyways, guardian and protector
angels such as seraphs and powers
allude to battles in heaven. do catholics
believe in wars in heaven?
such as bad angels and good angels fighting?
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According to Catholic tradition, Lucifer was an Archangel (along with Michael, Gabriel and Ariel). Lucifer was chief among all the Angels but rebelled against God.

St. Michael the Archangel defeated Lucifer in battle and cast Lucifer (and 1/3 of the Angels who also rebelled) out of Heaven and into Hell.

Lucifer then became Satan and the fallen angels demons.

Angels are not the souls of dead people, but a separate order of creation that also has free-will.

Whether angel or demon, they are basically messengers, and serve as the emissaries of God or Satan, respectively.

Hope that helps.

God Bless
 
Jacafamala said:
In ascending order, Archangels are of the lowest sphere. Next up come Dominations, then Thrones, Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Cherubim…Lucifer was a Seraphim, and yes they’re the highest order of angels. Saints Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel are all Seraphim.

St. Hilary wrote that, “Everything which seems to be empty is filled with the angels of God, and there is no place that is not inhabited by them as they go about their ministry.”

Each time a Mass is said, thousands of angels are present and are bowing in adoration before Our Lord, the Eucharist.

Your guardian angel stays with you until death and accompanies you to heaven, as your companion forever. If a soul is lost to hell, the Guardian angel of the soul of the damned joins Mary’s Choir in heaven.
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Why is it called the prayer to St Michael the ARC angel. Is that just a misunderstnading?
 
Jacafamala said:
In ascending order, Archangels are of the lowest sphere. Next up come Dominations, then Thrones, Principalities, Virtues, Powers, Cherubim…Lucifer was a Seraphim, and yes they’re the highest order of angels. Saints Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel are all Seraphim.

St. Hilary wrote that, “Everything which seems to be empty is filled with the angels of God, and there is no place that is not inhabited by them as they go about their ministry.”

Each time a Mass is said, thousands of angels are present and are bowing in adoration before Our Lord, the Eucharist.

Your guardian angel stays with you until death and accompanies you to heaven, as your companion forever. If a soul is lost to hell, the Guardian angel of the soul of the damned joins Mary’s Choir in heaven.
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Why is it calle d the prayer to st Michael the ARC andgel. Is that just a misunderstnading?
 
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