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It is appropriate for any minister, protestant or catholic, in my opinion.

99.9% of the time, if someone mistakes a protestant minister/priest for a RC priest, the protestant is going to tell them they aren’t RC, not try and deceive to “pull them out” of the RCC. It simply represents a leader/elder of the Christian faith in most cases. I don’t see why people get so bent out of shape over it.
 
Full_of_Misery said:
This is my first post on Catholic Answers Forums. Greetings, brothers and sisters.

I always wondered how Roman Catholics felt about Protestant ministers wearing single-breasted cassocks. I am really thankful that the Roman Catholic Church has retained this garment as it, for me, communicates gravity, seriousness, mournfulness, and a sombre demeanour that should mark all those who are public representatives of the Church.

Every day, infants and children die slow, painful deaths in ICUs, as their parents look on, their hearts pierced through as with a sword. Every day, hidden behind walls, countless children endure emotional, physical, and sexual abuse. There is so much suffering in this world. The public representatives of the Church, the men of God, should be the ones to remind the world that live is not about finding happiness for ourselves and our own, but rather about compassion and love for those who need it most. The public servants of the Church should be the ones to walk the walk, and teach others that the ones who mourn are the ones who are blessed, and that sorrow is better than laughter.

So, how do members of this forum feel about protestant ministers wearing the single-breasted cassock? Do you feel that it should be a uniform set aside exclusively for the Roman Catholic Church, or do feel it is appropriate for protestants, also?
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It does not bother me. Now it would if the goal was to “look CAtholic” in order to attract Catholics into dialog in the hopes of converting them.

I feel that it is good for a man of God to look like he serves God not man.
 
ralphinal said:
It does not bother me. Now it would if the goal was to “look CAtholic” in order to attract Catholics into dialog in the hopes of converting them.
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For sure, that would be flat-out deceitful.
 
I guess I am too traditional. I want priests to dress and act like priests, ministers to do the same. If I see a rabbi, I want to be able to know that he is a rabbi. I know that people go to the gym and stuff like that where they may be out of uniform. That is cool. But, dress and act the part, especially when on the clock
 
ralphinal said:
I guess I am too traditional. I want priests to dress and act like priests, ministers to do the same. If I see a rabbi, I want to be able to know that he is a rabbi. I know that people go to the gym and stuff like that where they may be out of uniform. That is cool. But, dress and act the part, especially when on the clock
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No, your’re not too traditional, Ralph. I absolutely agree with you.

JOn
 
btw, the Roman Catholic priest was the one who originally wore this type of collar. The collar therefore represents Catholicism.
 
I don’t like seeing protestant ministers wearing clericals at all. If they want to be priests, let them become Catholics and do away with the imitation.
 
ralphinal said:
I guess I am too traditional. I want priests to dress and act like priests, ministers to do the same. If I see a rabbi, I want to be able to know that he is a rabbi. I know that people go to the gym and stuff like that where they may be out of uniform. That is cool. But, dress and act the part, especially when on the clock
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How about if all Christian ministers wore a collar like Catholic priests and Episcopalian ministers do. Catholic priests could keep the black jacket or full length cassock, and the Protestant ministers wore a sport or suit jacket of some type. And then, to tell everyone apart, each denomination wore hats.
Catholics could bring back the Biretta
Episcopalians could wear fedoras
Lutherans could wear that Indiana Jones model
Baptists could wear that hat Clint Eastwood wore in the Spagetti westerns
Methodists could wear ten gallon hats

Now lets see, who’d get the sombrero…
 
Pong said:
I don’t like seeing protestant ministers wearing clericals at all. If they want to be priests, let them become Catholics and do away with the imitation.
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Do you think clerical collars and/or cassocks should be only for Roman Catholic ministers?
 
I like priests to look like priests,

My mate Paul who is a priest in our diocese wears his collar always even for footy training so i am told.

People have asked me in jest if our PP is a bank manager. That would tell ya what he likes to wear.

I guess it is what is inside each priest that counts.

I don’t think any denomination should claim regalia.

A leader of a community wearing a collar to look like a Catholic would be tacky to me but totally harmless.
 
Cathdefender said:
Yes, because it originally came from them. Anything else is just an immitation.
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Do you have a source for that? I was always under the impression that the collar was of protestant origin.

“There are two types: neckband shirts and tab-collar shirts. Though many people assoicate clergy shirts with the Roman Catholic Church, that is only because their sheer size makes their clergy conspicuous. Clergy shirts (black shirts with white tabs or collars) are actually of Protestant origin. The Rev. Dr. Donald McLeod of the Church of England invented the neck-band shirt style. Protestant clergy had been wearing white preaching bands for quite some time; McLeod combined them with the detachable collar that was in use at the time. The Roman Catholic Church did not adopt them as streetwear for clergy until later. They modified Rev. McLeod’s design into the tab-collar style.”

kencollins.com/Glossary/vestments.htm

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_collar

The single-breasted is cassock is seen on Anglicans, and some Methodists, nowadays. Even Jonathan Edwards, a congregationalist, used to wear one. They kind of fell out of fashion among protestants, but I think they may be making a comeback.
 
Do you think clerical collars and/or cassocks should be only for Roman Catholic ministers?
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We do not have ministers; we have priests. And yes, I think that clericals should be reserved for them- they are the ones who are actually ordained. The Orthodox, while also validly ordained, usually shy away from Roman garb. No issue there.
 
Pong said:
We do not have ministers; we have priests. And yes, I think that clericals should be reserved for them- they are the ones who are actually ordained. The Orthodox, while also validly ordained, usually shy away from Roman garb. No issue there.
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So, all the Anglican/Episcopalian/Methodist/Presbyterian/etc pastors/ministers/elders/bishops/etc shouldn’t be wearing a collar?
 
Pong said:
We do not have ministers; we have priests. And yes, I think that clericals should be reserved for them- they are the ones who are actually ordained. The Orthodox, while also validly ordained, usually shy away from Roman garb. No issue there.
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Anglican and Episcopalian priests at least do go through a form that purports to be ordination. To be sure it isn’t a valid form, but I wouldn’t begrudge them to wear a collar to show that they have done so.

Any more than I would begrudge any Christian to wear a crucifix if they wanted. We don’t own copyright on this sort of Christian symbology.
 
I would not begrudge anyone from wearing a crucifix either, provided it was done respectfully. However, valid ordination belongs to us and us alone. So too should the symbols of that ordination.
 
Pong said:
I would not begrudge anyone from wearing a crucifix either, provided it was done respectfully. However, valid ordination belongs to us and us alone. So too should the symbols of that ordination.
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For ME such gifts belong to My Father.

As for symbols i respect what you say for worldly things are for worldly people.
 
Read what **Ken Collins **(non-denom pastor) has to say about clericals. If one is simply wanting to draw attention to himself, he still has to answer to the Father in the end…
Shalom~
Cathdefender said:
Hello everyone, I would like to tell you this short story about what happened today in a coffee shop where I live. As I walked in to the coffee shop, there was a man who kind of looked like a hippie dressed with a collared shirt of a Catholic priest. I knew he wasn’t a Catholic priest yet I was curious to ask. I asked if he was Episcopalian with the collar in which he replied "no, I belong to the Green Union Church down the street. I then asked why then do you where the collar of looking like a Catholic priest and he answered “my parishioners said I’d get more attention if I wear it”. To which I replied, "well then you must get a lot of people mistaking you for a Catholic priest in which he replied “yes”. I then said “well, I guess that’s a good thing”. His friend responded “well maybe to you since your a Catholic” and I stated "and also to the 1.12 billion others too.

Question: Does one here think it is wrong to wear a collar in order to get attention? It seemed like some sort of a mockery to my church and others who deserve to wear it. Any comments?
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Pong said:
I would not begrudge anyone from wearing a crucifix either, provided it was done respectfully. However, valid ordination belongs to us and us alone. So too should the symbols of that ordination.
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I agree pong, it belongs to us and us alone.
 
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