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There was a post on another thread about how the Matrix helped someone come to the Catholic Church. It made me think of numerous movies which have touched on thoughts, concepts, characteristics of God.

So I ask all Catholic and non-Catholics alike, what movies have you seen that have furthered your understanding of God?

(I’ll hold off on mine for a while to see if anyone hits movies on my list).
 
There was a post on another thread about how the Matrix helped someone come to the Catholic Church. It made me think of numerous movies which have touched on thoughts, concepts, characteristics of God.

So I ask all Catholic and non-Catholics alike, what movies have you seen that have furthered your understanding of God?

(I’ll hold off on mine for a while to see if anyone hits movies on my list).
I just saw “Nine”, which is based on Fellini’s “8 1/2”. Despite the lavish sensuality the general drift of the movie is toward Guido’s (Daniel Day Lewis) reconciliation with his wife, and also the reconciliation of his mistress (Penelope Cruz) with her husband (Javier Bardem).

Like Fellini movies, this has some Catholic imagery, mainly in a conversation he has with a cardinal in a bath, and the priests who chase schoolboys away from an erotic dancer on the beach.

Often in Fellini movies the RCC is shown in exuberant exaggeration, such as in “Nights of Cabiria”, suggesting a troubled but respectful attitude toward the Church. In other movies, such as “Roma” we are treated to an ecclesiastical fashion show, where it is rumored that “he” is there, the pope being something like the most in of the in crowd.

In Satyricon, sexual, gastronomical, and other excess are shown for the empty pleasures they are. In La Dolce Vita, the aimless life of the idle young rich are shown as far less than sweet.
 
There was a post on another thread about how the Matrix helped someone come to the Catholic Church. It made me think of numerous movies which have touched on thoughts, concepts, characteristics of God.

So I ask all Catholic and non-Catholics alike, what movies have you seen that have furthered your understanding of God?

(I’ll hold off on mine for a while to see if anyone hits movies on my list).
I also just saw “the Libertine” on Comcast free on-demand. In it, Johnny Depp plays John Wilmot, 2nd Earl of Rochester, whose vile and vulgar lifestyle was only surpassed by the vulgarness of his poetry (though great stuff as political satire goes). Put the kids to bed before watching this one, and I am not kidding. In the end, however, dying from a potent cocktail of venerial diseases, he is converted to Christianity by the future bishop of Salisbury.

This is a story of redemption. It helps if you know his poetry in advance. Luckily most of his extant bawdy poems are available on the internet, where vice and liberties flourish.

John Malkovitch plays a great Charles II.
 
Well, I’ll give one.

You have to separate the movie from the idea to get this one because the movie is not about God.

When I consider God’s nature of omniscience, I think of the movie Groundhog Day.

I often use this as an example of how God knows everything about our lives. Only instead of one day, he is from the beginning to the end. He is unencumbered by time and because of this fact, he can know every moment of our lives.

It also works for omnipresent, predestination, foreknowledge, truth.
 
I thought Pleasantville gave some interesting (though not highly accurate) thought points on the knowledge of good and evil. I think they were purposely going there, with the whole apple scene too.
 
Well I would have thought the first mentioned would have been the Passion of the Christ.
 
I think that Passion had a different reception by non-Catholics and soft Catholics than hard-core Catholics. Some of us sort of understood how violent it was…

Anyway, Shoes of the Fisherman is one for me.
 
I think that Passion had a different reception by non-Catholics and soft Catholics than hard-core Catholics. Some of us sort of understood how violent it was…

Anyway, Shoes of the Fisherman is one for me.
Shoes of the Fisherman is a great movie. I saw it when it came out around 1970, and a few times since. Anthony Quinn is such a versatile actor.
 
There was a post on another thread about how the Matrix helped someone come to the Catholic Church. It made me think of numerous movies which have touched on thoughts, concepts, characteristics of God.

So I ask all Catholic and non-Catholics alike, what movies have you seen that have furthered your understanding of God?

(I’ll hold off on mine for a while to see if anyone hits movies on my list).
My favorite is “Time Changer”. It is about a man in the late 19th century who is being sent about 100 years into the future. He had written a book in his day and age saying that Christianity has good morals, but that these can be taught without naming the Lord. Well when he comes into our time he quickly finds out what happened in the aftermath. People are morally corrupt because they do not accept the authority behind the teaching. One scene was a little girl who stole is hot dog. Well he manages to catch her and tells her that he could have bought her one if she was in need of food. She just gives him back the hot dog and says “Here is your dog!” He tells her that stealing is wrong and she just answers “Says who?” and runs off.
He also visits a Protestant church (yes he is Protestant himself, but that is beside the point) and finds that they are not even having sound teaching and that all they do is fill their time with all sorts of activities. They go on visitation to possible members of their church and the members who took him there try to get the prospects into the church by telling them about their fun activities, etc. Well what he sees there is basically pathetic.

The moral of the whole film (which is portraying reality pretty well and out of the viewpoint of a man who lived 100 years ago) is the following:
You cannot proclaim the teachings of the Lord without the Lord of the teachings.

Honor where honor is due. When we tell someone not to do something we should tell them who said it. If we don’t morals becomes a matter of debate and popular vote (as we see in the issue of homosexuality and abortion).

In Him,
Janet

PS: Here the part about him coming into the modern times as portrayed on Wikipedia:
“Arriving in the early 21st Century, Carlisle is shocked to find that half of all marriages end in divorce, teenagers talk openly about deceiving their parents, movies contain blasphemous words and people who go to church are so bored by the sermons that they need extra activities. He tries to convince Eddie, a laundromat worker (Paul Rodriguez), that he needs to go to church and read the Bible.”
 
Shoes of the Fisherman is a great movie. I saw it when it came out around 1970, and a few times since. Anthony Quinn is such a versatile actor.
True.

I am not sure that I can really think about a movie that granted me insight into God. I have seen them that gave me insight into the faith or into my own journey. A Man for All Seasons is one of those
 
True.

I am not sure that I can really think about a movie that granted me insight into God. I have seen them that gave me insight into the faith or into my own journey. A Man for All Seasons is one of those
Well, I think part of my intent here goes back to the spark of the thread. Someone had stated that after seeing The Matrix they had a conversation. I remember when I saw the same movie thinking, hmmm… it is interesting how a secular movie seems to have some spirituality to it. I don’t find Neo to be similar to Christ. I don’t find his journey to self-discovery to be similar. I do find however, that as humans, we are often oblivious to the spiritual warfare going on (around us/on our behalf). I feel that we are capable of doing much more than we actually do. Whether the writers/directors intended it I don’t know.
 
I don’t know if it furthered my understanding of God, but I really liked Evan Almighty.
 
Well, I think part of my intent here goes back to the spark of the thread. Someone had stated that after seeing The Matrix they had a conversation. I remember when I saw the same movie thinking, hmmm… it is interesting how a secular movie seems to have some spirituality to it. I don’t find Neo to be similar to Christ. I don’t find his journey to self-discovery to be similar. I do find however, that as humans, we are often oblivious to the spiritual warfare going on (around us/on our behalf). I feel that we are capable of doing much more than we actually do. Whether the writers/directors intended it I don’t know.
The Matrix series is thinly-disguised gnosticism–which takes an important spiritual truth (this world is not “all there is”) and perverts it. Not surprising that several Satanists rock groups did music for it.
 
Well I would have thought the first mentioned would have been the Passion of the Christ.
Well I would have thought so too. The thing is that this movie is indeed very brutal, but it also reflects what happened to our Lord in a very impressive way. Just viewing it with a Christian perspective really shows the intensity and meaning of the movie.
Being aware of what He went through for our good is unimaginable. One thing that shocked me most (I don’t know whether that is in the movie though) is that it is physically possible to sweat blood when many of the really small vessels in the face burst releasing the blood through the pores. Jesus did sweat blood and because of that just a slap is incredibly painful (and he was indeed slapped).
Seeing all that agony is making me feel small already, though all of this is still nothing compared to what He must have felt on the cross, laden with the sins of the world, so that His Father would not look on Him.
“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”
I was impressed, not from a filmographic point of view but all the more from a spiritual point of view.
He did all of that to save us! The creator of the universe came down, lived a life in total obedience to the Father and then died the death of a criminal (which by the way was so cruel that a Roman citizen could never be subjected to it). He did all of that just to rise again and save us!
:bowdown:

Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ with incorruptible love.

In Him,
Janet
 
I don’t know if it furthered my understanding of God, but I really liked Evan Almighty.
Hmm… When Bruce Almighty came out I fought seeing it. I honestly thought comedy with a God representation was going to be a disaster (in more ways than one). I still resisted after somewhat decent reviews. Then when it came out on video, I had a discussion with someone who still insisted it had a decent theme.

After I saw it, I thought they tried to touch on some characteristics of God that quite honestly I didn’t think would work, but did. (but I don’t remember what they were).
 
Well, I think part of my intent here goes back to the spark of the thread. Someone had stated that after seeing The Matrix they had a conversation. I remember when I saw the same movie thinking, hmmm… it is interesting how a secular movie seems to have some spirituality to it. I don’t find Neo to be similar to Christ. I don’t find his journey to self-discovery to be similar. I do find however, that as humans, we are often oblivious to the spiritual warfare going on (around us/on our behalf). I feel that we are capable of doing much more than we actually do. Whether the writers/directors intended it I don’t know.
I think that the Matrix does have one aspect that is overlooked: this world is just a taste of the REALITY that is God. In the Matrix, everything that they experienced was an approximation of what they thought it would be. In this world, everything that we experience is an approximation of what eternity will be like
 
Hmm… When Bruce Almighty came out I fought seeing it. I honestly thought comedy with a God representation was going to be a disaster (in more ways than one). I still resisted after somewhat decent reviews. Then when it came out on video, I had a discussion with someone who still insisted it had a decent theme.

After I saw it, I thought they tried to touch on some characteristics of God that quite honestly I didn’t think would work, but did. (but I don’t remember what they were).
What I liked about it was when the wife and kids were leaving Evan and sitting the diner. God tells her when people pray for courage, does God give them courage or the opportunity to be courageous. When people pray for family togetherness, does He bring them together or does He provide the opportunity for them to come together. Or something to this effect.

It kind of goes to the message that when we pray, God does answer our prayers, but do we recognize when He answers? Often it is not always the way we want, but rather it is His will.
 
What I liked about it was when the wife and kids were leaving Evan and sitting the diner. God tells her when people pray for courage, does God give them courage or the opportunity to be courageous. When people pray for family togetherness, does He bring them together or does He provide the opportunity for them to come together. Or something to this effect.

It kind of goes to the message that when we pray, God does answer our prayers, but do we recognize when He answers? Often it is not always the way we want, but rather it is His will.
Guess I need to see the Evan version.
 
Has anybody seen Fireproof or Facing the Giants?

Sherwood Baptist has seemed to make it their mission field to make movies.
 
Can elaborate later on this one, but here are movies that furthered my faith to some extent.
  1. Passion of the Christ.
  2. LoTR trilogy
  3. Matrix trilogy Neo means One, Morphius means Father, Cypher means Satan, Trinity, well you can guess that one
  4. Hate to admit it, but Avatar.
  5. Ai gave me great insight into what it means to be human
  6. Superman gave me some insight as to what Christ must have thought about us, at least a little
 
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