Just overheard while in line at dunkin donuts

[DOShea]

his brother even hung a confederate flag in his dorm room

Every bit as presumptuous and ignorant as that man’s remarks. Do you know the person with the flag? What the flag represents to them? Why they put it up?

If one man’s ignorant remarks ruins your day, maybe there are more issues you ought to address.

 

[jwashu]

Good for you for checking on the urban legends I do the same whenever I get a spam email. I do have an error in my post in that I almost said something I didn’t.

And yes I am an expert on the differences between different sociopolitical movements and while I too am disappointed in Obama this far he is far from a socialist but definitely has socialistic ideas (like most nations on the plant today but us), is no where NEAR communism and is on the opposite side of the political spectrum to be a fascist…

The bottom line though is that neither party truly represents the people, that’s just a farce, both seem to have become nothing more than the pawn of lobbiest and big business… and neither is going to REALLY help us on abortion as long as it can get votes and dollars… and hey, I’m an optimist!

But back to the topic at hand, the Highschool I went to, in Arkansas none the less, mascot was the Rebel, it was a big condederate soldier flying a Rebel flag, we had flags on the cars and all over the schools. Oddly enough there were about 4 black sudents in the entire school (of 1600 plus students)… no one thought anything of it in a racist since, it was just the mascot. However I’m sure there were some who did… as I knew a number of people who were quite racist.

I went to a very liberal college though in AR though and we didn’t have any of it there, everyone was very tolerant (and this was in the late 80s) of pretty much everything and was very non-judgmental. The State College across town though was quite the opposite, there were a number racist there who were also pretty intolerant of other people who looked or dressed differently as well.

Not to turn this back to politics but if the OP is in Chicago I have a question. Most of my fellow teammates are there and are republicans. A group of us argue politics daily via email. One of the things they always try to say is that the Democrats in the area are more racist than the Republicans. What’s your take on that?

I ask because that’s just the opposite in AR. Everyone I know who is racist is also a staunch Republican. Now not every one of my Republican friends are racists, that’s not what I’m saying I know many who aren’t but I don’t have any friends who are liberals who seem to show any racist tendencies, actually they are all quite taken aback by any racist or sexist comments… Do you indeed see the opposite trend in the North around Chicago? Just curious…

 

[Gordon_Sims]

Not to turn this back to politics but if the OP is in Chicago I have a question. Most of my fellow teammates are there and are republicans. A group of us argue politics daily via email. One of the things they always try to say is that the Democrats in the area are more racist than the Republicans. What’s your take on that?

Virtually every single one of my white Democrat friends exhibits some degree of prejudice or racism. The further left they lean, the worse they are from a racist standpoint. None of them have any qualms about using the N-word and most of them tell ethnic jokes. I have my own theories about why this is (backed up by a lot of their responses to my own indignation over how they act) but I’d be curious to see what others have to say.

 

[MercyMia]

Speak up - I have no idea why you felt the need to be so harsh with me. Good grief. First off, I have social anxiety, I am usually bolder when I have my husband around as a crutch. And please do not state that I know I did not misunderstand him - I really did second guess myself as I do not have the best hearing. Yes, I am pretty sure that I did hear right but I would be mortified if I didn’t hear right and I made a huge scene over my own error. I am not a very confident person. My first reaction was of shock and then I sort of talked myself into thinking, nobody would really say that. There have been other times, in a store for instance when I saw a man mistreating the lady he was with, that I stood up and got in the middle. However, I was 100% clear that I saw it without mistake. This time…because I am sick and stuffed up and generally confused (I had gone to dunkin for something hot and an egg sandwich for protein because I felt like I was going to crawl into a hole and die). As I stated, when I got back to my desk I was regretting not sayng something. I guess you have never made a mistake, good for you, but I have, thats kind of why I need God, you know, the whole “not perfect” thing. Not that I need to justify my circumstances to you. Btw did you register just to be crude to me, seriously?

As far as the flag…yes I understand it represents history and is a reminder of the sacrifice of war for so many. When the context of it is properly understood, I understand why it is a valuable piece of American history. As I stated…he wasn’t hanging it out of some scholarly intent…he was hanging it up to be snarky, to be controversial as young college kids so often tend to be…he is much better now but from what my husband has stated…he was a bit immature and crude back then. I guess it is just the flippant way people say and do these things that makes me irritated.

 

[MercyMia]

;5764624]Every bit as presumptuous and ignorant as that man’s remarks. Do you know the person with the flag? What the flag represents to them? Why they put it up?

I sort of answered this is my post above…but yes I do know the peson who had the flag…it was my husband’s brother. This was a few years back, when he was in college, but even my brother asked him he had it when he visisted him in at his dorm room (we are from Connecticut so it was rare that he got down to visit him) and he said something like, oh because its funny.

If one man’s ignorant remarks ruins your day, maybe there are more issues you ought to address

Sorry - I am a very sensitive person. Comments like this upset me because they are a seed for bigger and worse things. Humans can be so bad to one another (myself included) and it really gets to me.

 

[MrS]

Stand up - I have no idea why you felt the need to be so harsh with me. Good grief.

Uummm… that would be Speak Up, not Stand Up…

And if you read the only other post from SU at this time… it is a position on the Notre Dame Obama scandle.

Nice to have CAF … we can come here and vent our frustrations… mmmm mmmm mmmm, yes we can

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[MercyMia]

Every bit as presumptuous and ignorant as that man’s remarks. Do you know the person with the flag? What the flag represents to them? Why they put it up?

If one man’s ignorant remarks ruins your day, maybe there are more issues you ought to address.

I sort of answered this is my post above…but yes I do know the peson who had the flag…it was my husband’s brother. This was a few years back, when he was in college, but even my brother asked him he had it when he visisted him in at his dorm room (we are from Connecticut so it was rare that he got down to visit him) and he said something like, oh because its funny.

As to the second part - Sorry, I am a very sensitive person. Comments like this upset me because they are a seed for bigger and worse things. Humans can be so bad to one another (myself included) and it really gets to me.

 

[MercyMia]

Sorry, I didn’t mean for this to get into a big commentary on race relations or north vs. south or Obama vs whoever…I was just sharing an observation out of my everyday life. We all live in different places, have different lifestyles and sometimes we encounter something that just stops us in our tracks and makes us realize there is truly hate in this world. I know that we don’t usually have to look very far to see…its all over the tv or the newspaper but this time it was in my coffee shop, ya know? I guess that’s the part that really threw me for a loop. Anyways, it was not my intent to stir up controversy.

 

[MercyMia]

Uummm… that would be Speak Up, not Stand Up…

And if you read the only other post from SU at this time… it is a position on the Notre Dame Obama scandle.

Nice to have CAF … we can come here and vent our frustrations… mmmm mmmm mmmm, yes we can

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Thanks - I edited it

 

[iluvmybabies]

You know when you just hear something and it puts a cloud over your day
I was grabbing a snack on my break. There was a gathering of older folks, probably 70+ having coffee and donuts while I was in line for my bagel and coffee. They were talking about Obama and corrupt Chicago politics…all stuff I agreed with. Someone mentioned Oprah being connected to Obama and one of the men said, “her fat a** should be on a plantation.” Yes. He said that. My heart sank. I was about to confront him and my timid side kicked in and I thought maybe I had misheard him. Nobody else seemed to react. It was noisy and crowded in there. I am just at a loss that people can speak these words, can think these thoughts. I live in Connecticut too… on the coast, not far outside NYC where people tend to be very progressive. I have not encountered many racist attitudes (though I know they exist). It was just such a harsh thing to hear. I mean, of all people I really dislike Oprah and I feel that her exposing people to New Age teachings is just a tragedy…but to make such a statement about her based on race…I am disgusted. I am back at my desk now…regretting that I didn’t pull that man aside and ask if I heard him correctly. May God change the hate in his heart and replace it for love all his people. Sigh, I just had to post this…maybe just as a reminder to myself how hateful we can be to our own brothers and sisters.

I hear you I know a lot of people like that, and it kind of makes me feel bad…I know I might have a thought here or there but I stop myself from thinking further and ask for forgiveness right away…I don’t mean to and maybe not as bad as what that gentleman said but still I get disgusted by myself to think I was going to think of something like that or was thinking of something racist, I hate myself after words…It’s like HELLO? What are you doing? You moron! (I say this to myself yeah!) Trying to be better you know?! And I try to stop those around me from being that way too… It’s just not a good thing…no matter what that person has done to anyone…you know?! I try to not be judgemental and be more understanding and caring…life is difficult enough to add to it you know?! And besides isn’t one of our rules to love one another as ourselves? Yeah…

We are all brother’s and sisters no matter what we look like or race or anything… And we should be accepting you know, no matter what!! And it’s a work in progress I understand that but the faster we can all get along the better!

 

[Speak_Up]

And if you read the only other post from SU at this time… it is a position on the Notre Dame Obama scandle.

What does this have to do with anything? Why is it relevant here?

I just happened to post on two threads on which I had an opinion…

 

[purplesunshine]

What does this have to do with anything? Why is it relevant here?

I just happened to post on two threads on which I had an opinion…

You don’t live in a vaccumn Speak Up. Your other posts contribute for better or worse to your credibility.

 

[MercyMia]

Speakup - Sometimes when some one appears on the board and posts one or two things only to disappear, they are sometimes thought to be what the internet world calls “trolls.”
I think that is what the other poster was referring to when brining up your other post. Sometimes “trolls” will be a bit harsh or try and cause controversy. As I stated before, I felt that you were a bit harsh with me in your response. It is nothing that I will hold against you; I know message boards can be a hard place to distinguish tone. We are, after all, a family in Christ.

Anyways, welcome to the boards and I hope you settle in comfortably.

 

[Speak_Up]

Okay… but purplesunshine, explain to me how what I posted about the Obama - Notre Dame scandal damages my credibility in what I said on this thread. I honestly don’t see the connection.

 

[purplesunshine]

Okay… but purplesunshine, explain to me how what I posted about the Obama - Notre Dame scandal damages my credibility in what I said on this thread. I honestly don’t see the connection.

Mercymia had a very good example. Some people are here to stir up trouble or only “care” about certian topics. There’s a longtime member who only posts about homosexuality, scandals and editoral news. Most people discount what he says.

 

[Speak_Up]

So basically, because I’m new, you feel you can disparage my intent and dismiss what I say?

Nice welcome. It’s a wonder anyone stays on this board past their first day if this is how you people treat them.

 

[happymommy]

So basically, because I’m new, you feel you can disparage my intent and dismiss what I say?

Nice welcome. It’s a wonder anyone stays on this board past their first day if this is how you people treat them.

Might have something to do with the “tone” you use in your posts:shrug:

 

[purplesunshine]

So basically, because I’m new, you feel you can disparage my intent and dismiss what I say?

Nice welcome. It’s a wonder anyone stays on this board past their first day if this is how you people treat them.

Did you not read what I said?

**There’s a longtime member…Most people discount what he says. **

You can take a grudge against us becuase we examined your other posts or you can just deal with it. I was accused by a young, inexperienced teen of being a “teen-hater” yet most people could see his argument was false beucase of my other posts. I’ll reserve judgment about how they felt about his posting, beucase I don’t know. Yes, we look at the whole picture. Each contribution to a thread will bear weight with how others feel about you, for better or worse.

 

[Speak_Up]

Might have something to do with the “tone” you use in your posts:shrug:

I don’t believe in euphemism. Wanna know why? Read 1984. I also don’t believe in muffling the truth with verbal fluff.

Ah well… guess I’ll be the troll. kpeople:

 

[happymommy]

I don’t believe in euphemism. Wanna know why? Read 1984. I also don’t believe in muffling the truth with verbal fluff.

Ah well… guess I’ll be the troll. kpeople:

I think there’s a difference between muffling the truth and not being unkind to other posters. You can get your point across without being rude. It’s done everyday on here:thumbsup: