Just visited Utah

[pakengkeng]

just a month ago, I have the privilege of visiting this so beautiful state.I was in disbelief seeing lds churches in almost every corner of each city.many of them were just a stone throw from each other.then,I attended a mass, I was surprised to see Mormons interested in joining the church.in fact,the priest mentioned their presence accompanied by rcia director.I overheard one lady mentioning the eucharistic. Then another couple,in their early 20s,who obviously were Mormons, as well ,were sitting close to me.they were very attentive .in fact,they were in a rush to be on time for the mass.it was so fascinating to know that many of them are drawn to the Catholic church.hope this will continue to gain more traction,especially in that part of this country.

 

[7_Sorrows]

I recently visited southwestern Utah and noticed the prominent LDS churches and temples in the cities we drove through as well.

 

[dnu]

Sounds like Protestant Churches in Oklahoma.

 

[twf]

St Mary Magdalene cathedral in Salt Lake is gorgeous.

 

[AnimaQuaerenti]

I attended the Cathedral of the Magdeleine recently and was surprised how many people were there. Very nice parish and extremely welcoming. Talked with their priest and their RCIA in particular helps those escaping Mormonism find a home.

 

[gazelam]

just a month ago, I have the privilege of visiting this so beautiful state.I was in disbelief seeing lds churches in almost every corner of each city.many of them were just a stone throw from each other.then,I attended a mass, I was surprised to see Mormons interested in joining the church.in fact,the priest mentioned their presence accompanied by rcia director.I overheard one lady mentioning the eucharistic. Then another couple,in their early 20s,who obviously were Mormons, as well ,were sitting close to me.they were very attentive .in fact,they were in a rush to be on time for the mass.it was so fascinating to know that many of them are drawn to the Catholic church.hope this will continue to gain more traction,especially in that part of this country.

Did you make it to Lagoon?

 

[RebeccaJ]

There’s a few of us here on CAF who are in the Diocese of SLC. Each Easter there are three to four hundred Elect who are baptized. Newly born in Christ! A good many of them are former LDS. (I was one of them, at Easter 2008. Thanks be to God.)

 

[7_Sorrows]

There’s a few of us here on CAF who are in the Diocese of SLC. Each Easter there are three to four hundred Elect who are baptized. Newly born in Christ! A good many of them are former LDS. (I was one of them, at Easter 2008. Thanks be to God.)

that is wonderful news!

 

[Horton]

There’s a few of us here on CAF who are in the Diocese of SLC. Each Easter there are three to four hundred Elect who are baptized. Newly born in Christ! A good many of them are former LDS. (I was one of them, at Easter 2008. Thanks be to God.)

I’m surprised by this. Happily surprised to be sure. The Lord does indeed bring His faithful home.

 

[CourtingTex]

As a former Catholic, lived in Utah some years ago, after moving from the East Coast.

Love the beauty of the parks and opportunities from Logan to Salt Lake City to into Utah county, Provo/Orem and beyond.

No surprise, Salt Lake City is progressive — Gay Pride parade, the current mayor is the first lesbian elected — opportunities to grow in a host of avenues from a moral standpoint, if one is real in serving others to make the world a better place.

Continued respectful effort for religious and non religious to live with their differences without the usual political correctness march that is common other places that I lived.

Personally, even if I was not LDS ---- a good place to raise children, among others in the country.

I could live there again, in a heartbeat, so to speak, versus LA.

Coming in Catholicism from other religions or the non religious doing the same was not a surprise at all. Breeding ground heavy from my perspective seeking God for the first time in their lives, speeding/running away or returning to a religious community.

 

[RebeccaJ]

As a former Catholic, lived in Utah some years ago, after moving from the East Coast.

Love the beauty of the parks and opportunities from Logan to Salt Lake City to into Utah county, Provo/Orem and beyond.

No surprise, Salt Lake City is progressive — Gay Pride parade, the current mayor is the first lesbian elected — opportunities to grow in a host of avenues from a moral standpoint, if one is real in serving others to make the world a better place.

Continued respectful effort for religious and non religious to live with their differences without the usual political correctness march that is common other places that I lived.

Personally, even if I was not LDS ---- a good place to raise children, among others in the country.

I could live there again, in a heartbeat, so to speak, versus LA.

Coming in Catholicism from other religions or the non religious doing the same was not a surprise at all. Breeding ground heavy from my perspective seeking God for the first time in their lives, speeding/running away or returning to a religious community.

It is extra work for non-LDS to raise children in Utah. Extra vigilance against those who are constantly and consistently working at trying to raise your children as Mormons. Convert them. Or shun them. There are a few Mormons who can actually let other people live their lives as they choose, without trying to interfere.

Converts from Mormonism to Catholicism are a mixed bag, Some convert straight from being an active Mormon to Catholicism. No non-religious stop in between. Some were raised nominally Mormon. Some left Mormonism and spent time in other religions or no religion. Utah is like anywhere else; secularism is setting in, particularly along the Wasatch front. Some converts to Catholicism become lapsed Catholics, after a short time, others are in the heart of the parish community for the rest of their lives.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

It is extra work for non-LDS to raise children in Utah. Extra vigilance against those who are constantly and consistently working at trying to raise your children as Mormons. Convert them. Or shun them. There are a few Mormons who can actually let other people live their lives as they choose, without trying to interfere.

Converts from Mormonism to Catholicism are a mixed bag, Some convert straight from being an active Mormon to Catholicism. No non-religious stop in between. Some were raised nominally Mormon. Some left Mormonism and spent time in other religions or no religion. Utah is like anywhere else; secularism is setting in, particularly along the Wasatch front. Some converts to Catholicism become lapsed Catholics, after a short time, others are in the heart of the parish community for the rest of their lives.

There is a heavy heavy social pressure to convert and convert young in the Mormon faith. Mormon communities are some of the best in the world and safest. But a non Mormon has tough sledding in Mormon populations. And it goes deeper than just a snub here or there. It can be crippling to non Mormons especially in the schools.

 

[CourtingTex]

I submit further, if I lived in Rome or any other majority religion place, relative to raising children or having no children at all, converting or not would be a issue as well, one parent of two parents households loyal to LDS or Catholicism or any other generally accepted Christian cause draws folks, etc or has folks leaving the area, relocating, etc.

I stand on my convictions, regardless other wants to convert or not ---- that is personal matter between God and that person so the converting efforts goes both ways.

With generations younger that myself some coming to God, others avoiding anything with God at all, marriage in a church, I could continue ----

The assault to belittle Jesus freaks, believers, Christians continues

I pray that at the end of the day being civil, respectful, and tolerant ---- love your neighbor as yourself/etc continues to come into others minds and hearts.

 

[zaffiroborant]

I submit further, if I lived in Rome or any other majority religion place, relative to raising children or having no children at all, converting or not would be a issue as well, one parent of two parents households loyal to LDS or Catholicism or any other generally accepted Christian cause draws folks, etc or has folks leaving the area, relocating, etc.

I stand on my convictions, regardless other wants to convert or not ---- that is personal matter between God and that person so the converting efforts goes both ways.

With generations younger that myself some coming to God, others avoiding anything with God at all, marriage in a church, I could continue ----

The assault to belittle Jesus freaks, believers, Christians continues

I pray that **at the end of the day being civil, respectful, and tolerant **---- love your neighbor as yourself/etc continues to come into others minds and hearts.

Trying to convert someone is neither respectful or tolerant.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Trying to convert someone is neither respectful or tolerant.

Eh, you are condemning a ton of saints and missionaries here…

 

[CarolNoel]

When I lived in Utah, the LDS were always trying to convert me, I was always being asked if I was of the faith.

 

[RebeccaJ]

I submit further, if I lived in Rome or any other majority religion place, relative to raising children or having no children at all, converting or not would be a issue as well, one parent of two parents households loyal to LDS or Catholicism or any other generally accepted Christian cause draws folks, etc or has folks leaving the area, relocating, etc.

I stand on my convictions, regardless other wants to convert or not ---- that is personal matter between God and that person so the converting efforts goes both ways.

With generations younger that myself some coming to God, others avoiding anything with God at all, marriage in a church, I could continue ----

The assault to belittle Jesus freaks, believers, Christians continues

I pray that at the end of the day being civil, respectful, and tolerant ---- love your neighbor as yourself/etc continues to come into others minds and hearts.

Right. But the subject is Utah. SLC was recently named one of the best places to retire by Forbes, with the con of SLC having a high crime rate. Problems with substance abuse overall and a high suicide rate for teens and young adults. All kinds of studies are going on in an effort to figure out what is going on with the poor mental health in Utah.

Pros, are the access to outdoor recreation, pro-family, as in, large families are pretty normal.

I’ve lived here my whole life. At one time it was a don’t lock your doors kind of community but those times were decades ago. Like all cities there are areas I would not travel alone at night and some I would not travel in at all.

Right now the inversion in SLC and other northern valleys is awful. Health warnings for people to stay indoors and don’t exercise outside. State Government doesn’t seem to give a rip about clean air so if you like breathing polluted air, SLC is the place for you.

 

[Marie5890]

Right now the inversion in SLC and other northern valleys is awful. Health warnings for people to stay indoors and don’t exercise outside. State Government doesn’t seem to give a rip about clean air so if you like breathing polluted air, SLC is the place for you.

I remember those inversions. I could feel it the irritation in my throat, similar to when I visited LA and the morning smog.

A sore throat was inevitable for me, in both places.

 

[RebeccaJ]

I remember those inversions. I could feel it the irritation in my throat, similar to when I visited LA and the morning smog.

A sore throat was inevitable for me, in both places.

Ya, I’m out of it all day, at work. I drive back into it every evening. From bright, sunny clean air to a dark oppressive smog that hides the sun and has a foul taste and burns my throat and eyes. Some kind of caustic layer coates your insides.

 

[zaffiroborant]

Eh, you are condemning a ton of saints and missionaries here…

Not really a ton but certainly some of the heavy handed methods employed in history. I see a distinction between proselytizing (trying to get people to convert) and evangelizing.