It’s not in Scripture at all.
But she quoted something that was supposedly in the Bible where Jesus said don’t celebrate my birth, celebrate my death. So that is the basis of why they don’t celebrate. Do you know where that is in the Bible, or is it in their made up Bible?
As your friend for the citation. I doubt it will seem very formidible once you see it in context. I suspect she is citing the passages of the Gospels which exhort us to keep the Lord’s Supper, and interpolating the prohibition against birthdays. Short of an actual passage however I have no idea what she is referring to.
Jesus never said that. Have her give you the verse so you can look at it. And then show her the verses in Matthew and Luke that show the Angels in heaven and the Sheppard’s in the fields rejoicing at His birth; obviously celebrating it
It’s not like JWs don’t give their children gifts at other times. I’m pretty sure that just because that girl couldn’t celebrate a holiday doesn’t mean she was deprived of stuff. That’s kind of a leap don’t you think? As an adult do you get all your clothes, food, etc from Christmas gifts? I doubt it. so why would this child only get toys at holidays?
Why didn’t your parents give you gifts at other times? In my house we had “family day” once a year where we would go someplace cool during the day, like a science museum or something, and exchange gifts at night. Plus there were other random times my parents brought home stuff for me. I’m glad that gift giving and telling people you love them wasn’t confined to certain days on the calendar in my home.
I’d have to look up the specific scripture. Don’t know what you mean by “made up bible”. The basic reasons are – the bible does not condone celebrating birthdays, not even Jesus’ and that December 25th was not the day of his birth anyway. You can prove that through scientific fact of the climate in that region at the time. There’s no way shepards would have been out tending to their flock at that time of season and day. Plus the Christmas tree and all the other things that have come along with that holiday have their basis in pagan rituals. If you don’t believe me, ask a priest. It’s true. The Christmas tree has lights on it because of the pagan day of lights or festival or something or other. What has that got to do with Jesus?
Okay, but what does a tree with lights on it have to do with Jesus? It’s fine if they no longer mean pagan things, but can you explain to me why it has anything to do with god’s son being born?
Yes we had the Family Day gift giving work around a few times.
Nor does it prohibit it.
The Temple Sheppard’s would have been. An interesting idea to look at. If the date is accurate (which is highly unlikely) but if it is, then the angelic hosts would have told the Temple Sheppard’s about the coming of Christ. How apropos.
that’s what it’s about for quite a lot of people. I have no need for my faith to be commercialized like that.
This goes along with why we don’t celebrate mother’s day and such too. You should focus on things like this every day, not on one specific day. It goes along with not celebrating birthdays. The bible is our example and the birthdays presented in it were horrible affairs where our lesson is we should not celebrate them.
The Christmas tree story is awesome. Excuse the vagueness; I don’t have the particulars in front of me. But the story is that when a certain Christian missionary was spreading the Gospel of Christ in Central Europe he camped in the area now known as Germany. The local religion was pagan and they were tree worshippers. He cut down the largest Oak Tree in the forest a symbolic gesture in toppling the local paganism. The next morning a Pine Tree stood in it’s place. The missionary took this as a sign from God and the Christmas tree tradition was born. Christmas trees and pagan roots? Youbetcha! Christ’s victory over paganism. Great roots!
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