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Marfran
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Is*** sports hunting ***ethical? Can we kill animals for the game of it?
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severus68
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No, no, no! If it is not clear, hunting for sport is not right, it is unethical. It is cruel to the animal being hunted. To those who say, this animal can run much faster than any human or anything like that, it can never be an even playing field. Herbiivores do not hunt for food, they would not know how to defend themselves well enough. As for carnivores, well, which hunter goes out to hunt big game without the arsernal to give him the greatest edge. The most important thing is the animal’s lack of choice. It is not a sport, certainly not for the animal being hunted.
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fish90
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I believe that if you do not eat what you take you are a bad hunter. Do to the grocery store and get a burger it is cheaper and quicker.
I am excluding hunting nuisance animals if you are a farmer, homeowner, etc.
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I am excluding hunting nuisance animals if you are a farmer, homeowner, etc.God Bless
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centurionguard
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I think it’s unethical to kill animals (“Just For The Game & Sport Of It”)
At the very least if the meat and fur are used to feed and warm people who are in NEED of it there’s nothing unethical.
But to Kill Animals for the Sport and leave the animal to rot in the forest having no beneficial need of it? I think it could become a sin of egotistical pride and greed if a hunter doesn’t use what he kills.
Personally I see no need for the Sport. It serves no purpose but ego.
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Tosk
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Hunting an animal just for the trophy and then wasting the meat is a crime but there is nothing wrong with killing animals for sport and food. The only example of killing animals just for sport that I can think of are dog fighting and other similar sports.
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severus68
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If someone kills an animal for food for survival, that is another thing altogether. I have read that in the past, when the Native Americans hunted buffalo for instance, they would use every part of it and would say a pray of thanks to God and thank the animal for giving up its life for them.
You are absolutely right. This “sport” gives some sort of perverse pleasure. What does it do to the soul of a person who seeks pleasure from such cruelty.
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Tosk
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A hunter is not seeking pleasure from cruelty any more than a person enjoying a rib eye is enjoying all of the sweet delicious cruelty inflicted on the cow to get the meat.
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4elise
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EXACTLY… and why people of faith should be concerned about this issue.
Many know that if a child tortures animals they are likely to grow to be an adult who will at the least ‘hurt’ people - or MUCH worse —
What about adults who are involved in “sport” hunting - dog fighting - cock fighting? What does it do to them to take pleasure from cruelty? Does it make them desensitized to human suffering as well?
I believe what we are missing is that this is ALL connected - we need to live our daily livs - our daily choices must reflect our faith - even if I can say, ‘Hey, I don’t ‘sport’ hunt, like dog or cock fighting’ - therefore I am not involved in animal cruelty". To just scratch the surface on the issue of where our food comes - opened my eyes and requred that I make changes… Peace
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4elise
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Exactly.
I’ve got some great vegan substitutes for that dinner!
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severus68
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I believe serial killers, or most of them,start with animal torture when they are young.
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Tosk
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My ancestors didn’t fight tooth and claw to the top of the food chain for me to eat tofu and grilled vegetables.
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severus68
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This thread is about the ethics of hunting for sport. Anyway, cavemen hunted for food so they could live, not for the fun of it.My ancestors didn’t fight tooth and claw to the top of the food chain for me to eat tofu and grilled vegetables.
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Tosk
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The focus of hunting is not inflicting pain on animals or getting pleasure from their suffering.
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severus68
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Please explain what yu understand hunting for sport to mean then.
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tjm190
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As I recall, Jesus had no problem allowing a demon to drown a few thousand pigs.
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DaveBj
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My cousin’s husband is a big-time hunter who recently took a number of trophies during a very expensive African safari. My understanding is that the local natives harvested everything else from the animals that he killed.
I am not a hunter. I do believe in killing animal pests and in hunting for food, but I am not going to get involved in the kind of sport hunting that brings the cost of venison to $50 a pound.
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I am not a hunter. I do believe in killing animal pests and in hunting for food, but I am not going to get involved in the kind of sport hunting that brings the cost of venison to $50 a pound.
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Tosk
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for me it is enjoying the outdoors with my family
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redrosetea
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I think when it is a bad or even sinful practice, is something like the wild west when men shot buffalo from trains just forsport and the animals were left to rot…it was just killing just for the sake of killing
I don’t think most hunters would do this…
I don’t think most hunters would do this…
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athansor
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For the overall question, it’s hard to answer for me as I’m coming at this from the perspective of a vegan.
Most of us, for example, think abortion is wrong. Does a really bad motivation for having the abortion make it even worse? (e.g. if one person has an abortion because they can’t afford to raise a child, but a second person, with lots of resources, has an abortion because they don’t want to risk stretch marks, is the second person doing a worse deed than the first? Does the fact that people like the second person exist somehow make abortion for other, more realistic reasons better?) Of course, most of us would say there is no justification for abortion, yet we may still be bothered by a situation like this second person’s.
So, while they are two very different things, in addition to being pro-life, I also happen to think that hunting, fishing, eating meat or dairy, or anything else that involves consuming animal products is wrong. I believe, that in our modern time, there is no need for the vast majority of us to eat meat or wear animal skin. So, when I think about something like sport hunting, dog-fighting, and the like, I see it as perhaps a bit worse than just eating meat, as it’s even harder to justify. On the other hand, the more I learn about factory farms and slaughterhouses, the more I have to think that someone who gets their meat from hunting is contributing far less to animal cruelty than someone who buys veal at the supermarket.
To the post I quoted, though, while I would like to think that most hunters are good folk, who hunt to put food on the table for their family or others in need, I have now lived in two places where my children and I are subject to graphic reminders that often the opposite is true. In west Texas, on a major highway, along a ranch that stretched for a long distance, hunters had decided it would be fun to try and kill as many deer and antelope as they could and hang their bodies from the fenceposts along the freeway as a gory decoration. This was difficult to explain to my son as we drove by. No meat was used, the animals were just shot, hung and left to rot…lots of them.
In our new home, one of the best hiking places is now off limits for many families because it is littered with deer carcasses from illicit hunts where the hunters are killing and then leaving the animals behind. This was a popular place for families to go outdoors and ride mountain bikes, take the dogs out, etc., but this activity has made it both upsetting for the kids and dangerous for the dogs.
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redrosetea
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Then you shouldn’t eat them…I eat meat, and wear leather, and drink milk, and eat eggs…I don’t consider it wrong or in the same league with abortion, and neither does the church…Man was given dominion over the animals…Christ ate meat and fish, and wore leather…If it was sinful He wouldn’t have done it
To cmopare abortion with hunting is just plain wrong
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