killing small animals

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I’m an animal rights guy, but my dogs and my neices and nephews come first. Spiders and that stuff, yeah-I’ll skoosh them and I don’t loose sleep over it. I’ll do it front of women and children, the like. Smaller animals like rats, etc-I would tell my neice and nephew to leave the room, then I’d kill them-I don’t want an infestation of disease in my house.

The rule of thumb for me is this-I love animals to death, but if it’s a wild animal that could hurt my future children or my beloved dogs, I won’t lose a wink of sleep killing it.

Example-In NH, I don’t think we have any posionus snakes, but let’s say we have some copperheads or rattlers-I’d kill them myself before they hurt my family.

The idea of killing small animals sickens me, but sadly, because of our fallen humanity, it has to be done.
 
I try to make every effort to remove things like spiders etc. and put them outside, but that isn’t always possible, sometimes in trying to catch them you smoosh them anyway. Last summer I had a brown recluse spider in the house (poisonous) and you can bet I killed it without hesitation. I am lucky not to have any move or ants or much of anything coming into this house save for the occasional ladybug or elm beetle, but I try to do my best to prevent them from coming in as well…keep the garbage cans and recycle bins and compost bin far from the house, all food in the pantry is well contained and sealed, etc.

When it comes to animals outside the house even nuisance ones, I try to let them be or shoo them else where. I have tons of rabbits that like to eat my garden, and besides fencing there isn’t much I can do. I’d never kill one, but then again my livelihood and food source aren’t dependent on my little garden, so I might feel differently if that was the case.

I think a good rule of thumb is, be as gentle as possible but people come first. I don’t think it’s a problem for children to see you kill an animal for the right reasons. As long as you’re not killing them just because…
 
I voted option 3, but I try not kill anything if I can help it. If a wasp or something was bothering me it wouldn’t worry me to kill it though.
 
We have a rule in the house. Leave spiders alone, and do not put them outside. They catch and destroy other insects. Spiders = The Good Guys.
 
scripture classifies a bunch of living things as pestilence. i kill pestilence. mosquitoes in my house and yard, flies in my kitchen, mice that poop in my bags of brown rice, yep. i kill them. in front of anyone-- no problem.

once my husband tried to pull a mouse off a sticky trap, but its feet stayed on. that was really bad. the old mousetraps work better. fast. decisive. final.

pestilence is bad.

my husband has killed small animals to eat them. but i made him stop squirrel hunting when we got married. when i opened my freezer to see a half dozen bodies that looked like naked headless babies, i made him stop. well, at least i demanded he freeze them and cook them somewhere else beside my kitchen. it seemed too much trouble to him, so he stopped hunting squirrels.

i killed a few chickens to eat them. my kids watched. they screamed and shrieked because chickens really do run around with their heads cut off. and spurt lots of blood. and no matter what direction i ran away, every headless spurting chicken-- SIX in all-- chased me around the yard. THAT was freaky. my kids looked out from the kitchen window and shrieked in delighted terror. or terrified delight. but it was a heckuva show. (i snipped their heads off with gardening sheers.)

twice i hit and killed dogs while i was driving. both times i pulled the car over and started knocking on doors to notified bereaved owners. that was horrible. really really horrible. one dog was just huge-- a giant pyranese retriever mix. it came out od nowhere.

once or twice a sparrow has flown into my kitchen window. a few just died on impact. but i had to kill one poor thing who hit the window so hard it mostly spurt open but it didn’t die. that was pretty bad, too. i have something hanging out there by the window to deter their flight path but it doesnt always work.

here’s the worst, though. i ***try ***and hit oppossums and raccoons in my car. i hate them because they eat my chickens. i’ve never been successful because i’m not that willing to be a daredevil in my car. but one morning, i went out to feed the chickens and several of them were in pieces around the yard. a raccoon had gotten them. (you can tell the difference between a raccoon attack and a possum attack. the possums eat a tunnel right through the chicken, top to bottom. the raccoons just make a terrible mess of chicken parts and feathers everywhere.)

so that’s the mess i came out to. chicken parts and feathers all around the yard. (the raccoon had pried the old roof off their house.) except for one poor chicken, named Sunday. she was all chewed up but she was still alive. her neck had so many holes it it, it whistled like a flute when she breathed. i didnt know what to do with her. she stayed in my laundry room all day, whistling like a sick flute. that poor bird lasted all day till my husband came home from work. he put her under a bucket with a rag soaked in WD40 and gassed the poor thing.

so, yeah. i kill small animals. “You ain’t so little as mice. I didn’t bounce you hard.”
 
Depends. I try to behave at all times like I want my children to behave. And I’m okay with the idea that my kids might grow up to kill bugs.

Generally, I seek a motivation before I hurt or kill anything. I try to catch and identify spiders because we have hobos around here - non-hobos are released to help compete for the hobo’s food, though (I’ve only found one likely hobo inside, however). I generally don’t kill bugs, but rather try to remove their food source so they remove themselves. I don’t like cleaning up dead bugs.
 
If we are talking about beneficial creatures (non-deadly spiders, ladybugs, bees, etc.) I do my best to shoe them outside if it can be done safely.

Anything else had best beware.
 
scripture classifies a bunch of living things as pestilence. i kill pestilence. mosquitoes in my house and yard, flies in my kitchen, mice that poop in my bags of brown rice, yep. i kill them. in front of anyone-- no problem.

once my husband tried to pull a mouse off a sticky trap, but its feet stayed on. that was really bad. the old mousetraps work better. fast. decisive. final.

pestilence is bad.

my husband has killed small animals to eat them. but i made him stop squirrel hunting when we got married. when i opened my freezer to see a half dozen bodies that looked like naked headless babies, i made him stop. well, at least i demanded he freeze them and cook them somewhere else beside my kitchen. it seemed too much trouble to him, so he stopped hunting squirrels.

i killed a few chickens to eat them. my kids watched. they screamed and shrieked because chickens really do run around with their heads cut off. and spurt lots of blood. and no matter what direction i ran away, every headless spurting chicken-- SIX in all-- chased me around the yard. THAT was freaky. my kids looked out from the kitchen window and shrieked in delighted terror. or terrified delight. but it was a heckuva show. (i snipped their heads off with gardening sheers.)

twice i hit and killed dogs while i was driving. both times i pulled the car over and started knocking on doors to notified bereaved owners. that was horrible. really really horrible. one dog was just huge-- a giant pyranese retriever mix. it came out od nowhere.

once or twice a sparrow has flown into my kitchen window. a few just died on impact. but i had to kill one poor thing who hit the window so hard it mostly spurt open but it didn’t die. that was pretty bad, too. i have something hanging out there by the window to deter their flight path but it doesnt always work.

here’s the worst, though. i ***try ***and hit oppossums and raccoons in my car. i hate them because they eat my chickens. i’ve never been successful because i’m not that willing to be a daredevil in my car. but one morning, i went out to feed the chickens and several of them were in pieces around the yard. a raccoon had gotten them. (you can tell the difference between a raccoon attack and a possum attack. the possums eat a tunnel right through the chicken, top to bottom. the raccoons just make a terrible mess of chicken parts and feathers everywhere.)

so that’s the mess i came out to. chicken parts and feathers all around the yard. (the raccoon had pried the old roof off their house.) except for one poor chicken, named Sunday. she was all chewed up but she was still alive. her neck had so many holes it it, it whistled like a flute when she breathed. i didnt know what to do with her. she stayed in my laundry room all day, whistling like a sick flute. that poor bird lasted all day till my husband came home from work. he put her under a bucket with a rag soaked in WD40 and gassed the poor thing.

so, yeah. i kill small animals. “You ain’t so little as mice. I didn’t bounce you hard.”
You could make a horror movie…or something…sort of Pet Cemetery. These stories make me glad I live in a city. Although I hear chewing noises coming from one corner of this room. I haven’t called any wildlife people, pest controllers, or termite companies. It has to be something-- squirrel, raccoon, who knows? I’m sure it will be expensive and I just wish it would go away.
 
When I read this thread title, I immediately thought of Chipmunks, squirrels, mice, rabbits, etc. That is what comes to my mind when someone says small animals. Not the common house fly or ants.

I have no problem killing an insect that is harmful. I would not harm a small animal.
That’s exactly what I thought Jay82. I was wondering how you’d even go about doing it.
 
scripture classifies a bunch of living things as pestilence. i kill pestilence. mosquitoes in my house and yard, flies in my kitchen, mice that poop in my bags of brown rice, yep. i kill them. in front of anyone-- no problem.

once my husband tried to pull a mouse off a sticky trap, but its feet stayed on. that was really bad. the old mousetraps work better. fast. decisive. final.

pestilence is bad.

my husband has killed small animals to eat them. but i made him stop squirrel hunting when we got married. when i opened my freezer to see a half dozen bodies that looked like naked headless babies, i made him stop. well, at least i demanded he freeze them and cook them somewhere else beside my kitchen. it seemed too much trouble to him, so he stopped hunting squirrels.

i killed a few chickens to eat them. my kids watched. they screamed and shrieked because chickens really do run around with their heads cut off. and spurt lots of blood. and no matter what direction i ran away, every headless spurting chicken-- SIX in all-- chased me around the yard. THAT was freaky. my kids looked out from the kitchen window and shrieked in delighted terror. or terrified delight. but it was a heckuva show. (i snipped their heads off with gardening sheers.)

twice i hit and killed dogs while i was driving. both times i pulled the car over and started knocking on doors to notified bereaved owners. that was horrible. really really horrible. one dog was just huge-- a giant pyranese retriever mix. it came out od nowhere.

once or twice a sparrow has flown into my kitchen window. a few just died on impact. but i had to kill one poor thing who hit the window so hard it mostly spurt open but it didn’t die. that was pretty bad, too. i have something hanging out there by the window to deter their flight path but it doesnt always work.

here’s the worst, though. i ***try ***and hit oppossums and raccoons in my car. i hate them because they eat my chickens. i’ve never been successful because i’m not that willing to be a daredevil in my car. but one morning, i went out to feed the chickens and several of them were in pieces around the yard. a raccoon had gotten them. (you can tell the difference between a raccoon attack and a possum attack. the possums eat a tunnel right through the chicken, top to bottom. the raccoons just make a terrible mess of chicken parts and feathers everywhere.)

so that’s the mess i came out to. chicken parts and feathers all around the yard. (the raccoon had pried the old roof off their house.) except for one poor chicken, named Sunday. she was all chewed up but she was still alive. her neck had so many holes it it, it whistled like a flute when she breathed. i didnt know what to do with her. she stayed in my laundry room all day, whistling like a sick flute. that poor bird lasted all day till my husband came home from work. he put her under a bucket with a rag soaked in WD40 and gassed the poor thing.

so, yeah. i kill small animals. “You ain’t so little as mice. I didn’t bounce you hard.”
one word: “wow”
 
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So, you folks who won’t kill a mouse or a bug are vegetarians, right? I’m just wondering…😉
No, not at all. 🙂

We were put in charge of animals. We need to take that responsibility seriously. Gratuitously killing a bug just because it’s there shows no respect for God’s creation. Putting an animal out of its misery, defending yourself against dangerous or harmful animals and killing for food does.

Killing for food can actually be seen as an act of respect and love, if done with the right attitude. It’s sacrificial. We, as humankind, killed Christ with our sins, and now we get to eat Him in the Eucharist. Is there a greater love?

I sometimes fish. Retrieving life from the waters is a wonderful symbolic act. But I feel it’s somehow wrong *unless *we eat the fish. It’s not for sport, it’s a sacrificial ritual. Eating the fish makes more sense than even catching and releasing.

Unless you eat nothing but dairy, honey and fruit (but don’t forget to plant the seeds from the fruit!), you’re going to kill life to support life. If you don’t do it yourself, you’ve just hired a hitman. There’s no going around that. How about accepting the sacrifice with awe and gratitude?

But perhaps don’t kill a bug *just *because it’s there and not even …ummm … bugging you. 😉
 
here’s the worst, though. i ***try ***and hit oppossums and raccoons in my car. i hate them because they eat my chickens. i’ve never been successful because i’m not that willing to be a daredevil in my car. but one morning, i went out to feed the chickens and several of them were in pieces around the yard. a raccoon had gotten them. (you can tell the difference between a raccoon attack and a possum attack. the possums eat a tunnel right through the chicken, top to bottom. the raccoons just make a terrible mess of chicken parts and feathers everywhere.)

so that’s the mess i came out to. chicken parts and feathers all around the yard. (the raccoon had pried the old roof off their house.) except for one poor chicken, named Sunday. she was all chewed up but she was still alive. her neck had so many holes it it, it whistled like a flute when she breathed. i didnt know what to do with her. she stayed in my laundry room all day, whistling like a sick flute. that poor bird lasted all day till my husband came home from work. he put her under a bucket with a rag soaked in WD40 and gassed the poor thing.

so, yeah. i kill small animals. “You ain’t so little as mice. I didn’t bounce you hard.”
Here’s a useful page on controlling possom attacks extension.org/pages/Opossum_Damage_Management
 
We had this topic last weekend among a grou of friends:

When you are disturbed by small animals, such as bugs, spiders, centipedes, snails and slugs…and so on… - in house or garden - do you kill those animals or not ? and if the answer is yes: do you kill them while children are present and watching - or do you pick a moment when no children are near you ?

Last question: if the answer is yes - do you use a killing method that lets the animal suffer as less as possible ?
I’m amazed that a society which doesn’t quail at tearing apart human babies in their mothers’ womb would think that it’s mandatory to show ‘kindness’ to insect pests.

Then again, the two usually go hand-in-hand.

It’s human babies who are the endangered species.
 
I’m amazed that a society which doesn’t quail at tearing apart human babies in their mothers’ womb would think that it’s mandatory to show ‘kindness’ to insect pests.

Then again, the two usually go hand-in-hand.

It’s human babies who are the endangered species.
Gee. It took till the third page of a kindness-to-animals thread for this to be posted. That must be a CAF record.
 
As someone who lives in the country I also wouldn’t have a problem killing varmit like moles and mice.

Bigger rodents like rats, squirrels and flying vertebrates like birds and bats, however, is where I draw the line. This day and age you can easily protect your house and yard against them.
What’s your secret method to protect your house and yard against rats without killing them?
 
We also should not forget that killing all sorts of animals was how God’s people worshipped and honored God for thousands of years.
 
Gee. It took till the third page of a kindness-to-animals thread for this to be posted. That must be a CAF record.
Actually, I mentioned it in post #11, not in the same words. And I sorta knew it would get to that point.
 
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