He even describes how Gimli lops off their heads 4 at a time during Helm’s Deep.
Even killing civilians in a computer game isn’t sin if it isn’t expression of real hate or violent thoughts. Those orcs don’t exist so nobody can get offended. When playing video games only thing that matters is what is in your head. Have fun!
This.Even killing civilians in a computer game isn’t sin if it isn’t expression of real hate or violent thoughts. Those orcs don’t exist so nobody can get offended. When playing video games only thing that matters is what is in your head. Have fun!
If you’re the DM, it’s your call. Period. If goblins are nothing more than stupid, little humanoids with no brains and all mob, then there’s really no difference between killing them and killing a wild pack of animals.
It’s wriiten…Some live it…and some not…but they to will subcomb to it eventually, least they commit an unforgivable sin that “He” will not FORGIVE! The game itself is not evil is it? If it is, ask why it is. It is because one has eyes? IS it because one “worships” it? Is it because of to much consumption? If so, then the one is not blind, is he not? Better off seeking Him, then playing “most” of a “DAY” in consumption of “ANY” game. Think….Remember How created “good” things!Though the Professor went back and forth on whether orcs were actually sapient beings or just uplifted/programmed beasts. In the former case, surrender must be accepted if the orcs are willing to surrender, but Morgoth and Sauron had propagandized them so well that as a practical matter, they never made the offer. In the latter case, of course, it would be an ‘outside their parameters’ issue.
It’s worth noting that the Catholic position is that if an enemy soldier surrenders they must be treated with mercy. There’s an entire thing on Just War, that really covers a large chunk of that. Basically it is possible that your enemies might act in ways that you find reprehensible, but allowing yourself to act the same way is horrific. As Tolkien said, “In the Great War, we were all Orcs,” so don’t allow yourself to become an Orc.
Actually I don’t mean to call you out, but you are entirely mistaken. Orcs and Goblins have soul as per the DMG, and in 3.5 various other sources that define their afterlife, in fact Gruumsh resides in the Abyss as well. Also Chaotic != Unintelligent. Orcs have an average intelligence of 8 or 9, which is almost as intelligent as the average human (give or take 5%). In fact Orcs in earlier editions were sentient.
Why would it necessarily not have to do with Catholic Morality? I mean why could one not have a world where there was a similar morality to Catholic Morality? You seem to be making a statement: “It depends on the World Building!” Which is absolutely true, except then adding an unnecessary addendum, “but don’t base the rules of that world on this particular set of real world philosophy, but you know greek or roman stuff is totally cool, and maybe some kind of weird medievalist stuff…” All of our fantasies reflect in some manner our reality, so there is nothing wrong with wanting to roleplay in a world where the absolute good corresponds roughly to what I believe it is in the real world.
Yes, indeed.
I must admit, I hadn’t considered the possibility of using Catholic morality as an in-game ethical system. To me that seems like a missed opportunity for devising something different and more interesting to roleplay.
Well Catholic Morality could be very interesting to roleplay, one could explore the roots of various moral problems, or get to experience what life would be like if one had moral problems that were not the same as the moral problems that one has. It like any complex system of ethics and morals has more than enough depth to be able to contain a nearly infinite number of different stories.