King Kong

[prairiedog]

estesbob:

Now to really out the cat among the pigeons think about the scene where Kong takes her to the ledge where he has killed all the Native woman sacrificed to him. He falls, however, for this WHITE woman. Is there a message there?

I have to laugh, because I think that comment is really over the top (even more that PJ’s King Kong). But I’ll bite. Just for arguments sake: In Kong’s world I think it’s safe to assume he’s never seen a white woman before. His curiosity is piqued and so he wants to investigate before killing her. He “gets to know her” and eventually becomes her defender. He kills other people (and blondes) in defending her. He’s got the brain of a primate, for crying out out. I don’t think there are any subliminal racial themes, if that’s what you’re implying. Also remember that this is a remake (homage) of a 1933 movie, the first REAL horror movie, made for depression era United States, so IF there are any subliminal racial themes, you can blame Meriam Cooper. But enough of such political correctness…

The movie was too long. They could have completely edited out the dinosaur stampede and I wouldn’t have blinked. Also, shorten the insect fight, and tighten up the first hour by not leading us down blind alleys of character development that end up nowhere. (what happened to the stowaway?..).

With that said, IMHO, the dinosaur battle with Kong and the New York sequences are cinematic magic and by themselves are worth the price of admission (but not the $4.00 Coke and $5.00 popcorn).

And, I admit it, I got teary eyed over Kong and Ann’s “relationship”. It far exceeds, in depth, that between Fay Wray and the original Kong. You must be really jaded to not feel anything when watching this move.

It’s not a masterpiece by any stretch, but it’s a fun, engaging, exciting adventure movie that needs some editing.

Remember, Peter Jackson made this movie because he loved watching the first Kong at age 9. You’re supposed to have escapist FUN watching it. I watched all the production video diaries over the past year, and never once did the goal surpass the objective of, “hey, would it be cool to redo Kong with newer technology.” Not one bit of metaphysical discussion occurred.

Go see it!

 

[estesbob]

prairiedog:

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And, I admit it, I got teary eyed over Kong and Ann’s “relationship”. It far exceeds, in depth, that between Fay Wray and the original Kong. You must be really jaded to not feel anything when watching this move.

It’s not a masterpiece by any stretch, but it’s a fun, engaging, exciting adventure movie that needs some editing.
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Jaded??? -Kong squished and/or pitched away every woman he picked up after determiniung they weren’t Ann. He killed 17 of the saliors from the ship and numerous other New Yorkers and Im jaded becuase I felt no sympathy for him when his homicidal ways are ended?

Now if you really want to talk about absurd how about Naomi Watts Standing on top of the empire state building, in high winds, in the dead of winter and wearing nothing more that a slinky cocktail dress and HIGH HEELS . Think she might of got a little cold up there? Think she migh find the footing a little slippery? Of course her cocktail dress was not as durable as the Kevlar slip she wore while be drug around the island, running from Dinasours, jumping of cliffs, being carried by bats, etc. That slip got a little dirty but nary a tear in it! The movie sucked.

 

[prairiedog]

estesbob:

Jaded??? -Kong squished and/or pitched away every woman he picked up after determiniung they weren’t Ann. He killed 17 of the saliors from the ship and numerous other New Yorkers and Im jaded becuase I felt no sympathy for him when his homicidal ways are ended?

Who said I wasn’t appropriately horrified at the appropriate (horrific) moments in the film?..I think you may be proving my point that the movie does have an emotional impact and effectively elicits a range of responses.

As for Naomi on top the Empire State Building; I’m not convinced you’re familiar with the term “suspension of disbelief.”

 

[estesbob]

prairiedog:

As for Naomi on top the Empire State Building; I’m not convinced you’re familiar with the term “suspension of disbelief.”

LOL-fair enough. Why is it that women beng chased by monsters always have on something skimpy?? You think perhaps its a horror movie rule?

 

[WanderAimlessly]

Looks like Kong has fallen out of first place after only 8 days. Narnia is back in first place: Link

PF

 

[estesbob]

WanderAimlessly:

Looks like Kong has fallen out of first place after only 8 days. Narnia is back in first place: Link

PF

Looks like it is living up to its Hollywood name-King Bomb

 

[Emly]

I think I am seeing it on Friday. Man, my hopes for thsi film ahve gone down a bit lol!

Well, ethier way, LOTR will always be the best film ever (Next to Passion of the Christ, but I am talking about entertainment…)

I hope its not that abd, I still renimber when the Village came out…it was worst movie ever…it ahd no end lol…and I had always been a fan of M. Night Shyamalan

 

[Troy7]

Looks like Kong is back on top again. It beat Narnia and has the number one spot 2 weeks in a row. Good for Kong as well as Narnia. Great to see 2 good movies competing.

 

[beckers]

estesbob:

I saw the movie last night. What a dispointment. WAY to long. The attempt to make me feel sorry for an Ape that killed about 50 people in the course of the movie fell flat with me. I thought the acting was poor and although the special effects were great they couldnt compensate for this LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG BORING movie

I personal think I would have enjoyed the movie more if SOMEONE wouldn’t have talked through it!!!

I did cry during the middle when SOMEONE stepped on my toe though

Seriously— I love Peter Jackson. LOTR is my all-time favorite movie. I have been looking forward to seeing this movie for a while. I was disappointed in a few things. He spent so much time on Character development of people like the stowaway but he never finished his story or the captains story. If your going to build their stories then finish them! My other problem was believabliity (spelling?) I could not believe certain aspects. Her hair is messed up but then one turn later it is completely curl again…Also it is cold enough for a jacket and cold enough that the water in the pond has frozen and can hold a huge ape but yet she can run and climb up the Empire state building in just a dress! It’s not believable. If your going to set things in a time period by showing the depression and the buildings of new york and reference everything to put it in a true and real time then you better make it believable. i could buy the ape and such but I couldn’t buy some of the make-up and costumes. Mr. Jackson should have know better after his great make-up and costume work in LOTR.

IOn the flip side I would recommend seeing this movie. The actoring is great. Was surprised by Jack Black… he was actually pretty good… Namoi and Brody are awesome!The movie looks great and the soundtrack rocks. Go see it because it is worth the admission price but the issue is that I don’t know if i will buy the movie when it comes out on DVD.

 

[Glenn_Lego]

estesbob:

I saw the movie last night. What a dispointment. WAY to long. The attempt to make me feel sorry for an Ape that killed about 50 people in the course of the movie fell flat with me. I thought the acting was poor and although the special effects were great they couldnt compensate for this LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG BORING movie

I enjoyed the original 1933 version best, even though the photography and special effects were primitive by today’s standards. The other night on American movie Classics on cable tv there was a King kong movie made in the 1970’s that starred Jessica Lang! I was not aware there were more than two versions until i saw that one. Thought that one was boring too.

 

[Mike_Dye]

estesbob:

I saw the movie last night. What a dispointment. WAY to long. The attempt to make me feel sorry for an Ape that killed about 50 people in the course of the movie fell flat with me. I thought the acting was poor and although the special effects were great they couldnt compensate for this LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG BORING movie

I kinda thought it might be like that! I remember the original with Fay Raye. My Mom let me stay up and watch it on Friday Fright Night…Nothing could have been more cool for a ten year old!!! I remember it to this day.

 

[Gerrygarvin]

Don’t listen to these people. Kong was great. That dinosaur fight scene would have been worth sitting through 3 more hours for.

 

[Hildebrand]

estesbob:

The only good thing I can say about this movie is its completion frees up Peter Jackson to do the Hobbit.

JKirkLVNV:

That was my attitude: “Peter Jackson? I’m thereI” As has been stated, it put the “bo” in “boring.” And it went on and on and on…it was like a Wagnerian opera without the valkyries singing arias…though if they had come in at the end, I wouldn’t have been surprised.

Anyone else ever think that the reason why the LOTR movies did so well, was not because of Peter Jackson, but because the story was the best novel of the 20th Century?

Peter Jackson, IMHO, butchered the books. His plan was to butcher them even more, but the outrage over Arwen fighting “Zena warrior-princess style” caused an uproar among Tolkien fans and he abandoned his grand idea. Jackson made Treebeard look like a dolt. There is useless “comedy”, farts, burps, and toilet humor. Imagine the Narnia movie with Susan farting? Gross and degrading of the original work. Faramir’s character was completely changed. Frodo offering the ring to the winged Nazgul was maddening. The entire Osgiliath scene was a waste of time, as was the 5 minute long slow-motion Gollum killing Deagol scene. The exorcism of King Theoden (in the fashion of the Exorist), another Jackson invention. Then Theoden goes into long tirades of extreme positions that don’t make any sense. Did anyone understand how Aragorn survived his near death? It was a waste of time. Nobody I knew understood the Arwen/ring duality. I, to this day, don’t understand it. The trolls change size (sometimes tripling in size and then going back to their “original” size). There were so many additions and useless changes, I lost faith in Jackson’s decision making right from the go: Fellowship of the Ring. Many of my friends, relatives of friends, and relatives who never read the books were confused after seeing the first movie and lost interest in them. I would have too. It became like every other movie filled with plot holes and contradictions/idiotic ideas. If Arwen can make floods, why don’t other elves make floods too? Something as basic as the use/purpose of the three rings was an unknown to all who did not read the books.

I am not surprised he “flopped” with King Kong. “Kong” is being beat by Narnia. Nobody in Hollywood would have predicted that. Godspeed to Narnia.

My advice: Keep Peter Jackson away from “The Hobbit”. Get Andrew Adamson, the director of Narnia, to direct “The Hobbit”. With Jackson, you’ll have Bilbo and Gandalf die twice in the Hobbit for increased drama; but don’t worry, they won’t really die, they’ll just fly off a cliff and end up ok; or get stabbed by a troll with a 10 foot long spear and by divine intervention have no any internal bleeding or ruptured organs (Tolkien had an orc, not a huge troll, stab Frodo and Frodo was pushed back into a wall and fall - that’s it, nothing else).

Jackson’s appetite for the dramatic and attention getter in every little thing does ruin his movies, especially in LOTR. If you are into eye candy, LOTR will amuse you for 3 hours and you will understand the good vs. evil; must destroy the ring. If you read the books and liked the Christian elements of LOTR, you will wonder what happened to Tolkien’s LOTR because the movies were PJ’s LOTR, not Tolkien’s LOTR.

 

[WanderAimlessly]

I just check BoxOfficeMojo. Narnia has beaten Kong every day since Monday. In fact, somce of the days it is over 1.5 million ahead. Narnia has already made over 200 million domestically since it opened.

PF

 

[mlchance]

estesbob:

…I felt no sympathy for him when his homicidal ways are ended?

An animal cannot commit homicide. They are not morally culpable for their actions.

estesbob:

Now if you really want to talk about absurd how about Naomi Watts Standing on top of the empire state building, in high winds, in the dead of winter and wearing nothing more that a slinky cocktail dress and HIGH HEELS.

Yeah, in a movie with a 25-foot-tall gorilla and giant maneater crickets, that dress on top of the Empire State Building sure did ruin the realism.

– Mark L. Chance.

 

[Emly]

Steve from decentfilms.com was right about this movie, as he sueally is (except I hated the cast of the village). The heart of the movie was good, but flushed out with to many plotlines like Jimmy and Mr. Harris (was that his name? lol). “Monsters belong in B movies”

LOTRs was the best movie for entertainment ever.