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Seriously, that shouldn’t be. You nor anyone else in the congregation can be made to do so. I wasn’t being deliberately flip.It happens in my parish every Sunday.
Seriously, that shouldn’t be. You nor anyone else in the congregation can be made to do so. I wasn’t being deliberately flip.It happens in my parish every Sunday.
smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_4_2.gifOh Thank You!
Actually, I was sad that I didn’t get a cool graphic from MrS!
smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_75.gif on your posts… except for those other two… smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/13/13_9_9.gif
(BTW, lots more stink but none of us are perfect!)
Now I gotta clean the ole Monitor…That only happens in LA, at the Cathedral, before they set fire to a virgin.
confusion, as you have correctly expressed it, is part of the problem. We seem to want so much from B16 to stop all this confusion. Guess we need to give him time. A well formed conscience will have to suffice for now.By this time I have to assume that no one has the answer as to what the reasons are why standing is the norm in the United States, Amazing, I thought someone would have jumped all over it by now
After all the instructions say that the person should be pastorally instructed as to the reasons for the norm. So, someone must have been instructed right? I mean there has to be a reason behind this thing. Otherwise they wouldn’t have said instructed as to the reasons.
MrS said:
Hey, Palmas, I haven’t gotten back to our thread yet, don’t be mad.By this time I have to assume that no one has the answer as to what the reasons are why standing is the norm in the United States, Amazing, I thought someone would have jumped all over it by now
After all the instructions say that the person should be pastorally instructed as to the reasons for the norm. So, someone must have been instructed right? I mean there has to be a reason behind this thing. Otherwise they wouldn’t have said instructed as to the reasons.
Phew!BTW, congratulations on your 2000+. I’m not going to quibble between fix’s and Mr S’s count on bad ones…
But that’s just it…a well-formed conscience tells us what? Obey the bishops, through the priests? The Holy See? I never saw a reason not to do what the bishops asked me, esp. since they had the permission of the Holy See, ie, the pope, though I can certainly see that kneeling is, at the very least, a subjectively more reverent posture, esp. given Who we believe the priest to be holding in his hand. But as for that, shouldn’t we be crawling up the aisles, then prostrating ourselves on our faces? I mean, again, given Who the priest is holding?confusion, as you have correctly expressed it, is part of the problem. We seem to want so much from B16 to stop all this confusion. Guess we need to give him time. A well formed conscience will have to suffice for now.
How about this? Taken from… adoremus.org/1002Kneeling.htmlBy this time I have to assume that no one has the answer as to what the reasons are why standing is the norm in the United States, Amazing, I thought someone would have jumped all over it by now
After all the instructions say that the person should be pastorally instructed as to the reasons for the norm. So, someone must have been instructed right? I mean there has to be a reason behind this thing. Otherwise they wouldn’t have said instructed as to the reasons.
Yet we have not had even one report that any priest or bishop has been concerned about people making *no gesture of reverence at all* -- not even the prescribed "bow of the head" before receiving Holy Communion.
Why this inconsistency?
**"Catechesis" on reverence?**
Many Catholics see these new restrictions placed on customary gestures of devotion as reflecting a de-sacralizing attitude towards the Blessed Sacrament; and the restriction on kneeling, genuflecting, etc., is perceived as a determined effort by some Church authorities to diminish the honor and reverence due the Blessed Sacrament. This perception is increased when such draconian efforts to get people off their knees comes at a time when confidence in bishops' governance is at such a low ebb because of the sex-abuse scandals and cover-ups that have plagued the Church throughout the entire year.
An unsigned article on USCCB Liturgy committee's web site, "Postures and Gestures at Mass", states that standing "from the earliest days of the Church, has been understood as the stance of those who are risen with Christ and seek the things that are above. When we stand for prayer we assume our full stature before God, not in pride, but in humble gratitude for the marvelous thing God has done in creating and redeeming each one of us. By Baptism we have been given a share in the life of God, and the posture of standing is an acknowledgment of this wonderful gift".