Know Anyone Victimized By Abortion Industry?

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I’m posting this thread to help anyone who has been the victim of forced abortions or has been victimized by abortionists. If you know anyone who has been victimized, please help me to help them.

The Thomas More Society is a pro-life law firm that can help these victims take legal action against abortionists who victimize people. Here’s their e-mail address:

info@thomasmoresociety.org

Please give this e-mail address to anyone who needs help pursuing legal action against these killers.
 
what the abortion proponents won’t tell you is this simple fact - all women who have had abortions … have been victimized.

“choice” is a lie propagated by the father of lies. it’s good that there is an organization to help those who have been especially lied to by the industry but ultimately… there should be a class action lawsuit. 😦
Chris_LaRock said:
I’m posting this thread to help anyone who has been the victim of forced abortions or has been victimized by abortionists. If you know anyone who has been victimized, please help me to help them.

The Thomas More Society is a pro-life law firm that can help these victims take legal action against abortionists who victimize people. Here’s their e-mail address:

info@thomasmoresociety.org

Please give this e-mail address to anyone who needs help pursuing legal action against these killers.
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I’m posting this thread to help anyone who has been the victim of forced abortions or has been victimized by abortionists.
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I did have a friend who had an abortion. However, she went through it on her own free will & was perfectly fine & well treated; furthermore, nobody pushed her into this decision, because the people around her knew she was expecting & would support her either way.
But I realize this is not the case for all people & it’s nice there is an organization there to help those who did not chose this path.
“choice” is a lie propagated by the father of lies.
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Care to explain this a bit more?
 
Robertsxxx said:
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I did have a friend who had an abortion. However, she went through it on her own free will & was perfectly fine & well treated; furthermore, nobody pushed her into this decision, because the people around her knew she was expecting & would support her either way.
But I realize this is not the case for all people & it’s nice there is an organization there to help those who did not chose this path.
“choice” is a lie propagated by the father of lies.
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killing one’s own baby is marketed as a “choice” - most women who abort, however, are doing so out of external factors such as the inability to financially support their baby.

it is not an accident that ministries like rachel’s vinyard are needed and that there is a name for the aftermath that many women experience following abortion: post abortion stress syndrome.

rachelsvineyard.org/
afterabortion.com/
catholiceducation.org/articles/abortion/ab0102.html
feministsforlife.org/

satan is a seducer. he slinks in and helps women believe lies such as, “it’s not a baby yet. it won’t feel pain. you deserve to live your life free of an unplanned child.” and women in this position are eager to be convinced. it’s only afterwards that the reality sinks in: “i have killed my own child.” it’s the regret that can’t be undone, and comes with a suicide rate all its own.
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post abortion stress syndrome.
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& I guess there is no such thing as postpartum depression, or baby blues after birth, as well as, harsh homonal imbalances during carrying the child which result in major mood swings that could be potentially dangerous & so on?

“it’s not a baby yet. it won’t feel pain. you deserve to live your life free of an unplanned child.”
Do you have proof to support that these claims are wrong? If I’m not mistaken the fruit only starts feeling* during a certain stage of development. The legal abortions time is usually 12 (Europe), 24 (U.S.) weeks when it’s barely entered the fetus stage.
killing one’s own baby is marketed as a “choice”
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Just because you are limited by externalities that does not make it less of a choice, actually that is what makes it a choice. You evaluate your options, weigh them out & chose the one that you think will be the best course of action.
 
Robertsxxx said:
& I guess there is no such thing as postpartum depression, or baby blues after birth, as well as, harsh homonal imbalances during carrying the child which result in major mood swings that could be potentially dangerous & so on?

“it’s not a baby yet. it won’t feel pain. you deserve to live your life free of an unplanned child.”
Do you have proof to support that these claims are wrong? If I’m not mistaken the fruit only starts feeling* during a certain stage of development. The legal abortions time is usually 12 (Europe), 24 (U.S.) weeks when it’s barely entered the fetus stage.

Just because you are limited by externalities that does not make it less of a choice, actually that is what makes it a choice. You evaluate your options, weigh them out & chose the one that you think will be the best course of action.
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“thou shalt not kill” is in direct conflict with abortion. in our hearts, we know this. under the duress of unplanned pregnancy, we can make all kinds of poor choices - this is one that should not exist.

please read the links i posted to see why abortion is bad for women.
 
cathybramble said:
“thou shalt not kill” is in direct conflict with abortion. in our hearts, we know this. under the duress of unplanned pregnancy, we can make all kinds of poor choices - this is one that should not exist.

please read the links i posted to see why abortion is bad for women.
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Abortions can have severe consequence, just as actually bearing a child can.
thou shalt not kill" is in direct conflict with abortion.
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I do not view getting rid of a clot of blood & cells as killing, just my opinion.
But then should protecting yourself in self defence by illegal as well? Or getting rid of a child if it endangers the mother’s health? It’s still killing* even though it gives the opportunity for somebody else to live.
We’re getting off topic anyway.
 
Robertsxxx said:
Abortions can have severe consequence, just as actually bearing a child can.

I do not view getting rid of a clot of blood & cells as killing, just my opinion.
But then should protecting yourself in self defence by illegal as well? Or getting rid of a child if it endangers the mother’s health? It’s still killing* even though it gives the opportunity for somebody else to live.
We’re getting off topic anyway.
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interesting. a clot of blood and cells with a head, arms, and legs - feet, hands, fingers, toes… i guess it’s just a matter of terms. do you know what an 11-week fetus looks like? this “clot” that you don’t think is a person? be careful, it might disturb you to see this.

abortiontv.com/images/11WeekAbortion.jpg
 
Robertsxxx said:
The legal abortions time is usually 12 (Europe), 24 (U.S.) weeks when it’s barely entered the fetus stage.
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24 weeks it’s barely a fetus? It isn’t a person yet, so that’s why it’s alllowed… odd… I was born at 24 weeks, I was sure I counted as a person. 🤷
 
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24 weeks it’s barely a fetus? It isn’t a person yet, so that’s why it’s alllowed… odd… I was born at 24 weeks, I was sure I counted as a person. 🤷
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that is the capriciousness and irony - if a mother has her baby early and wants him or her to live, we fight for that life. if the mother does not want her baby to live, we fight for her right to kill it.

there is no absolute morality about the unborn in our culture, it all hinges arbitrarily on what the mother wants to do with it. if a woman has a pre-term baby at say, 23 weeks, and suffocates it, we call it murder. if a woman has an abortion at 23 weeks, we call it “choice.”
 
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interesting. a clot of blood and cells with a head, arms, and legs - feet, hands, fingers, toes… i guess it’s just a matter of terms. do you know what an 11-week fetus looks like? this “clot” that you don’t think is a person? be careful, it might disturb you to see this.

abortiontv.com/images/11WeekAbortion.jpg
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  • You didn’t answer the question, sort of, about your “thou shalt not kill” comment.
Anyway, yet many of the internal organs are sort of present, thus, the look alike to a normal developed born baby, yet those organs are not in their operational state yet, they are just starting to develop at this stage. It is still not a seperate organism that can survive by itself. Furthermore, the fetus starts feeling pain only during about 11 weeks or later as welI. I think the viability age only starts with fetal development or even later.
"“it’s not a baby yet. it won’t feel pain”
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Furthermore, at least according to wiki, the at least current concensus on feeling pain is 26 weeks, so who is the liar in this case, if the poster is feeding women with wrong information just to scare them & make them feel quilty?

I would still prefer that people protected themselves, instead of having to think & at times chose abortion when conception has already happened.
 
Robertsxxx said:
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I did have a friend who had an abortion. However, she went through it on her own free will & **was perfectly fine **& well treated; furthermore, nobody pushed her into this decision, because the people around her knew she was expecting & would support her either way.
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Unfortunately, the baby didn’t fare so well. 😦
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Robertsxxx:
I do not view getting rid of a clot of blood & cells as killing, just my opinion.
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but when it is completely ignorant of science, it isn’t really a valid opinion IMO. A zygote is not a “clot of blood and cells,” nor is the unborn child at any stage of development. Cells which come from a human (i.e. skin cells, blood cells) are not considered human. The human itself - distinct organism with distinct DNA - should have the right to life.
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Robertsxxx:
But then should protecting yourself in self defence by illegal as well? Or getting rid of a child if it endangers the mother’s health? It’s still killing* even though it gives the opportunity for somebody else to live.
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“Getting rid of a child” born or unborn, if it endangers the mother’s health is illicit. Self-defense is a different matter entirely - and not the same as killing an innocent.
 
cathybramble said:
you have revealed yourself as a troll at this point, so i’m not going to dignify any more of your posts with responses.
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Is it wrong for me to think it was? :confused: It reminded me of those lab rats or other animal fetuses we used to have in bottles in bio classes.
if a woman has a pre-term baby at say, 23 weeks, and suffocates it,
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“HAS” is the difference here; she HAD the baby, meaning it survived & was born.
 
Robertsxxx said:
“HAS” is the difference here; she HAD the baby, meaning it survived & was born.
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It’s a baby, though. We know they survive that early, it’s murder to kill them.

It’s like saying they’re not people if they stay inside the house and you don’t see them.
 
RobertLGarrett said:
Unfortunately, the baby didn’t fare so well. 😦
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  1. Says you.
  2. Considering she has issues with her woman parts, the possibilit yof her not being able to carry out the baby, since her body wasn’t adjusted well to supporting it, was extremely high.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but when it is completely ignorant of science, it isn’t really a valid opinion IMO. A zygote is not a “clot of blood and cells,” nor is the unborn child at any stage of development.
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Yeah, I agree using that phrase was ignorant of me & I apologise for this.
The human itself - distinct organism with distinct DNA
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Yet it is not yet distinct.
“Getting rid of a child” born or unborn, if it endangers the mother’s health is illicit.
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So you value one life more than another so it’s okay to “kill” what you call a “child” in exchange for somebody elses life? Why can’t the woman be forced to have the child, then die & the child live? As “distinct” human being, shouldn’t they be held of equal value?
 
Robertsxxx said:
  1. Says you.
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Yeah…well, it wasn’t too difficult of a determination. Certain death = not faring well. Possible death due to complication = possibly not faring well in the future.
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Robertsxxx:
Yet it is not yet distinct.
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Sure it is. It is a separate organism with a DNA that is different than the mother who is bringing it to term.
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Robertsxxx:
So you value one life more than another so it’s okay to “kill” what you call a “child” in exchange for somebody elses life? Why can’t the woman be forced to have the child, then die & the child live? As “distinct” human being, shouldn’t they be held of equal value?
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I don’t value one life over the other, and it is not okay to “kill” the child in exchange for somebody else’s life. Where did I say that?
 
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