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datritle
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I am asking for a new Bible for Christmas, and I am HEAVILY leaning toward the Knox Bible. I’d just like to hear your thoughts on this translation.
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Luigi_Daniele
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datritle
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yeah i remember this thread. but now that it is out, I was hoping someone who had bought it could give an account of how they like it.
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Kopratic
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I bought the version recently released by Baronius Press, and it’s great. I’m reading Jeremiah right now, and I find the language to be very poetic. Flipping through, I’ve noticed that the translation also keeps the acrostic nature of Lamentations and some of the psalms {e.g., 33 [34], 36 [37], 118 [119]}. I read Psalm 33, {I will bless the Lord at all times…} and it’s really great.
The verses are laid out in such a way that each line is one verse; thus, the pages aren’t divided into columns. Of course, some verses span multiple lines. This is good for reading, but can be a bit confusing for locating verses easily because some verses might begin in the middle of a line.
One con I find with this is that everything is laid out this way, including the Psalms.
{i.e.,
Instead of being
written like this
with line breaks,
they are written in paragraph form.}
It doesn’t at all diminish the beauty of the text; it’s more of a minor inconvenience.
I would definitely recommend getting the Knox Bible.
EDIT; Also, it doesn’t have any section titles like most Bibles, but I’m not really bothered by this aspect.
The verses are laid out in such a way that each line is one verse; thus, the pages aren’t divided into columns. Of course, some verses span multiple lines. This is good for reading, but can be a bit confusing for locating verses easily because some verses might begin in the middle of a line.
One con I find with this is that everything is laid out this way, including the Psalms.
{i.e.,
Instead of being
written like this
with line breaks,
they are written in paragraph form.}
It doesn’t at all diminish the beauty of the text; it’s more of a minor inconvenience.
I would definitely recommend getting the Knox Bible.
EDIT; Also, it doesn’t have any section titles like most Bibles, but I’m not really bothered by this aspect.
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datritle
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thank you very much!! the deal is done. i shall be officially requesting this one!
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Phyllo
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The foot notes that are there are very good also. I just received mine several days ago and I think it is very nice.
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iloveangels
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It depends on what you want it for. For serious bible study, you can do better. For a nice reading copy, it’ll do fine, especially if you’re looking for a beautifully bound book for your library shelves.
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Phyllo
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For serious study I would get the DR with Haydock commentary.
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iloveangels
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No. Very dated and it’s not a translation from the original manuscripts. For serious study, you should get a couple of translations so that you can compare the words used. For serious study, use the RSV-CE and at least two other versions. You’ll also need a concordance, a bible dictionary and a one-volume commentary, if you actually want to study the Scriptures.For serious study I would get the DR with Haydock commentary.
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bilop
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The DR is a literal transaltion from the Latin Vulgate, which was based on very ancient manuscripts, including many no longer extent.
Since the Vulgate is the only Bible that the Church assures us is free from doctrinal error, I’d stick to it as close as possible.
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iloveangels
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I don’t know where you heard that, but it’s not true.
Read the recent documents from the Pontifical Biblical Commission and find out what’s really going on in biblical research.
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Phyllo
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I have all of the above and many versions of the bible. I find that the Haydock is traditionally Catholic and I like that even if it is dated. What could or should change in modern commentaries?
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Phyllo
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I heard this also.
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iloveangels
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English usage has changed since those translations and references were written. You and I use words differently than they did then. The older a book is the more likely it is that the word usage has changed significantly enough that you’ll misunderstand the words. Old references and translations are pretty, but they have to be used with caution.
The act of translating a book from a language like Greek is a complex act. There are a number of words in English that can be chosen by the translator to represent a given passage. Which word or words he chooses will vary depending on the translator and the modern usage of the language. This is why if you get 3 different translations, you will see slight differences in the words. It’s also precisely why people who do deep bible study will have several different translations at hand. The idea is to determine what the inspired author was trying to convey to his audience when he wrote the passage. It can be a daunting task in some cases.
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bilop
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IIRC the Douay-Reims was not translated from Greek, it was translated from the Latin Vulgate, and the revisions were compared against the Vulgate for fidelity.
That’s the selling point. We know the Vulgate is free from doctrinal error. Why would I want a translation based on other texts, where error may be introduced? Especially given the rampant Protestant influence in Scriptural studies, and their attempts (going back to Wycliffe) to distort Scripture to suit their agendas.
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iloveangels
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Um, the Vulgate was originally translated from the Greek. So are all these newer translations only without the double translation that causes errors.
The Knox Bible is fine for show, and it’s okay as a reading translation. But for serious bible study, it’s a poor choice due to the use of outdated words and expressions.
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ProVobis
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The Clementine Vulgate actually. The earlier Latin versions were copied and recopied many times by monks throughout many (10?) centuries. (This was prone to many handwriting mistakes. What are the odds of anyone copying even one page without a mistake? On top of that spaces were put in to separate words and Irish monks introduced lower case letters.) Different copies were examined for consistency and differences and from there a standard edition of the Vulgate was assembled and went to the Gutenberg press.
Some of Jerome’s Vulgate was translated from the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic and some was based on a still earlier Latin version, the Vetus Latina. Patrick457 can provide you with a better history and background.
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creole54
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I have the Knox Bible from Baronius also, and I love it. I don’t find the language outdated at all. It’s beautifully poetic and easily readable. It’s not a good study bible because it has absolutely no ‘helps’ and very few notes. But I don’t like to sit in bed and read from a study bible anyway, they’re too big. The Baronius Knox is a good size (not too big to hold comfortably), beautifully bound and printed on quality paper.
I recommend it.
I recommend it.
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