Kolbrin Bible: Another apocryphal hoax?

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(I originally started this thread in another forum, but it probably belongs here instead.)

Does anyone know anything reliable about the Kolbrin Bible? Supposedly this is a collection of ancient Egyptian and other texts that parallel Exodus, as well as predicting the end of the world in 2012 when the Mayan calendar ends.

Websites promoting the Kolbrin Bible:
kolbrin.podomatic.com/
kolbrin.com/store/pxkc/

Personally I think it’s a bunch of hooey, but someone near me is looking at the “evidence” and suggests keeping an open mind.

I guess we’ll find out for sure in about 4 years. :whistle:
 
I will go with what Jesus said,in speaking about the end of the world, i.e., “Only the Father knows, not even the Son.” I will accept this short scriptural verse instead of some presumed text, found in an Islamic country, when they destroy any evidence that supports the Old or New Testament, and even manufacture false evidence to show otherwise.
Deacon Ed B
 
Deacon_Ed_B said:
I will go with what Jesus said,in speaking about the end of the world, i.e., “Only the Father knows, not even the Son.” I will accept this short scriptural verse instead of some presumed text, found in an Islamic country, when they destroy any evidence that supports the Old or New Testament, and even manufacture false evidence to show otherwise.
Deacon Ed B
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Good point - thank you. Judging from the lack of other responses to this question, it would appear no one knows anything that could reliably validate the Kolbrin Bible nor any of its claims.

The response I go to your point, Deacon, was that Kolbrin doesn’t really predict the final end of the world, just the end of life as we know it. And the so-called evidence is all being supposedly covered up by some international government conspiracy. 🤷

The supposed origins and history of the Kolbrin Bible texts make my “BS detector” sound, rather like the Gnostic writings made the Early Church Fathers’ “BS detectors” sound.

I guess all I can do is remind my friend (yet again) that there is no reliable source who backs up Kolbrin’s claims. Unless you consider the Weekly World News and the National Enquirer reliable. LOL.
 
Nan_S said:
Kolbrin doesn’t really predict the final end of the world, just the end of life as we know it.

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From my point of view, if we talk about the end of life, that would be the end of the world as we know it.
Deacon Ed B
 
Enticed by the prospect,I’ve become interested,though I’m not drowning yet…
If this is the Bible,used before Moses,as it is sold as,it’s invaluable. Saying Jesus lived only 27 years,I have one ding.
Another is the language.
The Rosetta Stone was not found until the turn of the 19th century. This would have been a circuit around finding it.

LOVE,PEACE,AND HAPPINESS
 
Deal or No Deal,Scholars and Academicians? Are these The Scriptures before Moses?
 
“Nobody knows the day nor the hour”…The word,knows,is"gnosko" This is one of two Greek words,used for know,knowledge without study. Another word,oido,would have been used in the very precise Greek to transmit,that the day and hour could not be known. It is.
I can refer you to a book that was written in 1975 and missed 9/11 by six days with an error percentage of 1/365000. The same book gives dates for The Flood,Adam and Eve,Jesus,The
Depression et al from decoding The Pyramid.
Recently introduced to The Kolbrin,I need someone to lend me their homework.
Is it the Scriptures before Moses? Would it not have circumlocuted a need for the Rosetta?
Serving in Pharoah’s Court,might not Moses have had access to these writings? Are the character’s names besides Enkidu and Atun heuristically identifiable?
I think,I am too into this.
It’s really flaky…from the data source to the marketing to the authorship to the lack of analysis.
I’m a scholar…get me outta here.:confused:
 
According to its promoters, the Kolbrin (not really a “Bible”) can be traced back to a large collection of manuscripts salvaged from Glastonbury Abbey during an arson attack, which supposedly happened when there was a great suppression of monasteries. Even so, the event described is actually a conflation of events between the 12th and the 16th centuries: the fire of 1184 - which proponents claim was started on purpose to destroy this “secret knowledge” - and the suppression of the Abbey in September 1539 as part the Dissolution of the Monasteries in England.

It is claimed that the fire - or rather, in their view, arson - of 1184 was started by King Edward I, who saw the “Bronzebook” as a heretical work, a rival of the Bible and a potential threat to his claim as King of England. Even so, Edward lived much later than the Glastonbury fire (he was born in June 17, 1239!), so could not have suppressed the book in 1184.

Note though that some supporters now claim that the “fire” happened in either 1181 or some such date - while omitting any mention of Edward I. For example, the version of the Kolbrin published by Janice Manning and Marshall Masters (under the name “The Kolbrin Bible”) claims thus:

The manuscripts were stored in Glastonbury Abbey until a fire nearly destroyed it in 1181. According to their official website, glastonburyabbey.com/, Glastonbury Abbey is “traditionally the oldest above-ground Christian church in the world.” The ruins of Glastonbury Abbey are located in the town of Glastonbury, the county of Somerset, England.

The “history” of the Kolbrin actually relies on the well-known story - supported of course by that book - that Joseph of Arimathea supposedly went to Britain and founded the very first Christian community in the world at Glastonbury there.

Note that while Tertullian (AD 155-222) already mentions the Britons being “subjugated to Christ” in his lifetime, he does not say how the Gospel came to Britain before 222 AD. St. Hippolytus (AD 170-236), meanwhile puts names to the seventy disciples whom Jesus sent forth in Luke 10, includes Aristobulus of Romans 16:10 with Joseph, and states that he ended up becoming a pastor in Britain. Eusebius of Caesarea (AD 260-340) taught in his Demonstratio Evangelica that of Jesus’ disciples, “some have crossed the Ocean and reached the Isles of Britain.” In none of these earliest references to Christianity’s arrival in Britain is Joseph of Arimathea mentioned.

The very first connection of Joseph of Arimathea with Britain that we have is found in the 9th century work Life of Mary Magdalene by Rabanus Maurus (AD 766-856). Rabanus states that Joseph was sent to Britain, and he goes on to detail who travelled with him as far as France, claiming that he was accompanied by “the two Bethany sisters, Mary and Martha, Lazarus (who was raised from the dead), St. Eutropius, St. Salome, St. Cleon, St. Saturnius, St. Mary Magdalen, Marcella (the maid of the Bethany sisters), St. Maxium or Maximin, St. Martial, and St. Trophimus or Restitutus.”
 
the_unholy_one said:
“Nobody knows the day nor the hour”…The word,knows,is"gnosko" This is one of two Greek words,used for know,knowledge without study. Another word,oido,would have been used in the very precise Greek to transmit,that the day and hour could not be known. It is.
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Actually the word used for “know” in Mark 13:32 IS eidō/oida (literally “to see” but also “to know, i.e. get knowledge of, understand, perceive”).

“But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

“Peri de tēn himeras ekeinēs ē tēs ōras oudeis oiden, oude oi aggeloi en ouranō, oude o Yios, ei mē o Patēr.”

Matthew 24:36 uses almost the same wording:

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, [nor the Son,] but only the Father alone.”

“Peri de tēn himeras ekeinēs kai ōras oudeis oiden, oude oi aggeloi tōn ouranōn, [oude o Yios,] ei mē o Patēr monos.”
Is it the Scriptures before Moses? Would it not have circumlocuted a need for the Rosetta?
Serving in Pharoah’s Court,might not Moses have had access to these writings? Are the character’s names besides Enkidu and Atun heuristically identifiable?
I think,I am too into this.
It’s really flaky…from the data source to the marketing to the authorship to the lack of analysis.
I’m a scholar…get me outta here.:confused:
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The very first problem we have is, no one today has technically seen the original manuscripts: we only have copies. One ‘official’ website claims thus:

Until 1995, The Kolbrin was in the care of The Hope Trust, of which little is known.There is currently a Hope Trust registered in NZ but they have nothing to do with The Kolbrin, nor did they have anything to do with it. The current custodian is The Culdian Trust, which was formed in 1980. The Culdian Trust inherited The Kolbrin and other books when the Hope Trust was deregistered around 1995 in accordance with its constitution. Around 1992, an elderly man from the Hope Trust who is now deceased put together the current draft from the originals. His character, reputation and relatives are still living. He was an extremely private man while alive and the trust are respecting his wishes with regard to continued privacy.

The Culdian Trust members did not get to see the original manuscripts on which the most recent version of The Kolbrin was derived, nor do they understand how they came into the elderly man’s possession or where he sent the originals upon completion. They believe, based on speculation, that he may have been a member of a hermetic order probably based in England, so the original manuscripts may have gone back there. Despite the continued ambiguity of The Kolbrin’s origins, a Culdian Trust representative that knew the man for approximately twenty years held him in high regard and found him to be a man of extremely high integrity.

Glenn Kimball also reports the same:

In 1992 a leader of the failing “Hope Trust”, that considered itself the protector of the Kolbrin, distributed a copy before its complete deregistration in 1995 intending to preserve it before it could be lost with the dissolution of the trust. The Yow World Books copy of the Kolbrin comes from one of those 1992 original distributed copies that was sent to India for publication. There are two published versions, ours in America and the Culdean Trust version in New Zealand. There isolated copies in Lebanon, England, the Vatican and others around the world.
 
the_unholy_one said:
Enticed by the prospect,I’ve become interested,though I’m not drowning yet…
If this is the Bible,used before Moses,as it is sold as,it’s invaluable. Saying Jesus lived only 27 years,I have one ding.
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It’s not really a “Bible” per se, nor is it technically “Scripture” of sorts.
Another is the language.
The Rosetta Stone was not found until the turn of the 19th century. This would have been a circuit around finding it.
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One story about the work claims that people who wished to preserve the work wrote copies in the style of King James Version Elizabethan English during the 19th century; with the work eventually being modernized around the late 19th-early 20th (which would be quite contradictory with the “old man” account presented above; first of all it begs the question as to how did these people get their hands on the manuscript, and second, can we have a “critical edition” of sorts comparing these various supposed translations, if they can produce them?). It should be surprising that if the Kolbrin is true, no one had stepped up and shown the manuscript during the Rosetta Stone hype. But then again, they claim that it is a carefully guarded piece of work hidden or buried through the centuries…
 
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