Komen Confirms It Continues Funding Planned Parenthood

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I understand that you’re upset about this, but from the perspective of the Susan G. Komen Foundation it only makes sense. Their big thing is breast cancer awareness, treatment, and prevention. The odds of surviving breast cancer go up tremendously with early detection. PP does millions of breast exams and mammograms every year, and most of those are done for low income women for a reduced cost or for free. It helps there mission to fund PP. Now, if another alternative were to show up that doesn’t perform abortion I could understand an argument against this, but as it is now PP is the only organization that offers so many services to low income people.

When I was in college I went to PP for my endometriosis diagnosis and treatment. I didn’t have insurance and they were the only place that I could afford to get help. I was treated very well there and would recommend it to anyone who had an issue that they otherwise couldn’t afford to have taken care of.
 
The organiztion continues to give money to Planned Parenthood. Indeed the organization -Susan Komen- may indeed be facilitataing, via such donations, productive research for Breast Cancer. Perhaps.

Let us be brutal here. Compute the numbers. How many babies die every year due to Abortion? Compare this number with the actual breast cancer survivors actually helped by Planned Parenthood.

Consider this. Planned Parenthood - IMHO- is a morally bankrupt institution as evidenced by the very nature of the facility’s providing abortion. I personally would not trust such with my money.

Are there not morally better institutions that do better research into Breast Cancer?

Never again regards - Nimzovik
 
It’s hypocritical. They spend money to try and save lives yet at the same time spend money to destroy life. I won’t buy anything related to Komen anymore. I’ll give my money to the MANY other cancer organizations that don’t peddle death.
 
Only about 2% of what planned parenthood does is abortion. The rest is STD testing, treatment, pap smears, birth control, breast cancer screening, treatment of basic female issues like endometriosis and ovarian cysts, counseling, adoption services, prenatal care, ultrasounds, etc.

If you don’t have health insurance and you have a problem that list then PP is really your only option. They really are the only clinics out there. I would never tell someone who needed medical help to just suffer and let their health deteriorate rather than get help at PP. Rather than attacking the entire organization over providing a legal service that current statistics show 1 in 4 women will get, why not attack the law instead? To me it seems to be more ethical and effective to change the law than to try to shut down health centers that help women in so many ways.

Even if PP did go away, the demand for abortion would still be around and different clinics would crop up to take its place. The only difference is that those clinics may not provide all of the services that PP does.
 
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Only about 2% of what planned parenthood does is abortion. The rest is STD testing, treatment, pap smears, birth control, breast cancer screening, treatment of basic female issues like endometriosis and ovarian cysts, counseling, adoption services, prenatal care, ultrasounds, etc.

If you don’t have health insurance and you have a problem that list then PP is really your only option. They really are the only clinics out there. I would never tell someone who needed medical help to just suffer and let their health deteriorate rather than get help at PP. Rather than attacking the entire organization over providing a legal service that current statistics show 1 in 4 women will get, why not attack the law instead? To me it seems to be more ethical and effective to change the law than to try to shut down health centers that help women in so many ways.

Even if PP did go away, the demand for abortion would still be around and different clinics would crop up to take its place. The only difference is that those clinics may not provide all of the services that PP does.
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2% too many…
 
Please. If you state percentages - give the source. I think you may indeed find that there is more than meets the eye.:cool:

BlueyedLady Wrote: "If you don’t have health insurance and you have a problem that list then PP is really your only option. "

Well is this true? I don’t think so. Note also. With the Obama administration recieving funding from Planned Parenthood and subsequently the Obama administration is fighting to remove the ‘Conscience Clause’ one can see what is happening. Do you think Planned Parenthood is just maybe endeavoring to assure they are the “only option” as you put it?

Planned Parenthood is IMHO, intrinsically evil. As defined by it’s very mission statement. Seriously. What good can come of anything that is related to it?
 
washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/what-planned-parenthood-actually-does/2011/04/06/AFhBPa2C_blog.html

That’s a chart showing what they do.

Actually, most locations don’t even provide abortions since they need special equipment and doctors for that. There are 6 locations in my city, only one provides abortions.

Regardless, when the CC (or any other anti-abortion group) sets up that many clinics that provide that quality of care to women in need they can complain about PP. But the fact of the matter is without them, a lot of women would have no where else to go to get preventative care and treatment for some very serious and painful conditions. Suggesting that they all be shut down will hurt the poor tremendously.

Condemning the entire organization and their entire mission is like condemning the entire CC and refusing to give them money because it may go to fund the defense of priests accused or convicted of child abuse. Of course the CC does a lot of good, but it does put money towards things like that. Same with Komen and PP.
 
I am always rather … tentative about Washington Post information and accurate reporting - I guess with the financial clout that Planned Parenthood has I am aware that it could be quite easy to buy good P.R.

That aside. Let’s assume :rolleyes: the statisitcs are accurate for debate’s sake. You say only 2% are abortions? Yet I see that 35% of the pie chart is contraception. Much ‘contraception’ (the Pill, the ‘Morning After Pill’ as well etc.) is abortion by Catholic Dogma lights. Yes?

As far as the defunding Planned Parenthood will hurt a great number of women … Well! We must temper this idea with this newsrealblog.com/2011/04/08/planned-parenthood-lies-pro-choice-people-should-condemn/8/ .

**BlueEyedLady wrote: “**Regardless, when the CC (or any other anti-abortion group) …”

Bold Lettering mine

I find it interesting in your post that you refer to Pro -Life people / organizations as ‘Anti- Abortion’ Why is it Pro -Life people do not get the same ‘Politically Correct’ respect as other groups when it comes to terminology? Hmmmmmmmmm…

BlueEyedLady Wrote: “Condemning the entire organization and their entire mission is like condemning the entire CC and refusing to give them money because it may go to fund the defense of priests accused or convicted of child abuse. Of course the CC does a lot of good, but it does put money towards things like that. Same with Komen and PP.”

This is a Non Sequitur. Priests, by definiton of their vocation, are not an organization that promotes evil (abortion which -let’s call it what it is - a blood sacrifice to evil - however inadvertently it may be unknowingly perpetrated.) Planned Parenthood, as I have stated earlier, deliberately practices their …craft.

**BlueEyedLady Wrote: " **Regardless, when the CC (or any other anti-abortion group) sets up that many clinics that provide that quality of care to women in need they can complain about PP. But the fact of the matter is without them, a lot of women would have no where else to go to get preventative care and treatment for some very serious and painful conditions. Suggesting that they all be shut down will hurt the poor tremendously."

Italics mine. So! You will vote in favor of the ‘Faith Based Initiatives’ to facilitate healthy alternatives to Planned Parenthood? Instead of perhaps (verbally at least) supporting Planned Parenthood I.E, that which militates IMHO - and militates is the right word here IMHO- agianst competition? Ahemmmm?

I could go on if you wish…;)😃
 
BlueEyedLady said:
I understand that you’re upset about this, but from the perspective of the Susan G. Komen Foundation it only makes sense. Their big thing is breast cancer awareness, treatment, and prevention. The odds of surviving breast cancer go up tremendously with early detection. PP does millions of breast exams and mammograms every year, and most of those are done for low income women for a reduced cost or for free. It helps there mission to fund PP. Now, if another alternative were to show up that doesn’t perform abortion I could understand an argument against this, but as it is now PP is the only organization that offers so many services to low income people.

When I was in college I went to PP for my endometriosis diagnosis and treatment. I didn’t have insurance and they were the only place that I could afford to get help. I was treated very well there and would recommend it to anyone who had an issue that they otherwise couldn’t afford to have taken care of.
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I can understand your support of Komen’s support of PP considering you were able to get help from PP when you couldn’t afford to go anywhere else. I’m really glad you were able to get the treatment for your endometriosis, and I hope you’re feeling better now. I really don’t care where you got your treatment. I’m just glad you got it :hug1:
 
Hmmmmmmm… Mammograms were mentioned in regard to Planned Parenthood in the preceding posts yes? Well there certainly seems to be some …shall we say…‘discrepancy’… about planned Parenthood and the provison of mamograms for the public - Yes? Hmmmmmmmmmmm… What about this?

foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/30/anti-abortion-group-accuses-planned-parenthood-lying-mammogram-services/

and, of course this:

rootofjesse2.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/planned-parenthood-ceo%E2%80%99s-false-mammogram-claim-exposed/

So. It seems Planned Parenthood has a lot to answer for methinks.👍

As for the number of abortions and the agenda pf Planned Parenthood there is this compelling site: catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=15450
 
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