Koran readings in Catholic Church?

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I’m pretty sure that it is not permitted to read the Koran in the Catholic Church.

But I can’t find any Church rules on this.

Can anyone help?

The context is some kind of blessing service in a Catholic Church of a couple who married in England. The couple is a Ctaholic and a Muslim.

So they want some readings… from the Koran.

The original question from another forum is below to give the context:
Hi there
just a question, I am not muslim but my sister has married a muslim man and I have met him and he seems a lovely fellow. They married in England but are having a church blessing in a catholic church in Ireland. My sister has asked my partner/girlfriend to write some prayers of the faithful for the church service and my partner wishes to include some prayers of the faithful that include/make reference to the muslim faith so as my brother in law is not excluded, if that makes any sense (I probably could have worded this post better) neither of us no anything about islam
or what could be used/suitable with regard to marraige? Can anyone give me some help - possible islamic quotes that would be suitable/can be used in the context of a church service? Thanks
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Even if the blessing of the marriage is not done within the context of the Mass, I believe that the same rules would apply:
[61.] In selecting the biblical readings for proclamation in the celebration of Mass, the norms found in the liturgical books are to be followed,136 so that indeed “a richer table of the Word of God will be prepared for the faithful, and the biblical treasures opened up for them”.137
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[62.] It is also illicit to omit or to substitute the prescribed biblical readings on one’s own initiative, and especially “to substitute other, non-biblical texts for the readings and responsorial Psalm, which contain the word of God”.138
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The Rite of Marriage outside of Mass already has its own rituals. The readings are similar to those used when the Rite occurs within the Nuptial Mass. I hope this helps.
 
It would probably not be allowed but some churches may allow it.I say this because although I’ve never read the Koran There must be some sayings in there which are religious in general and don’t contradict any of the Church’s teachings.The whole Koran isnnn’t corrupt is it?
 
valentino said:
It would probably not be allowed but some churches may allow it.I say this because although I’ve never read the Koran There must be some sayings in there which are religious in general and don’t contradict any of the Church’s teachings.The whole Koran isnnn’t corrupt is it?
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Regardless of whether or not the Koran or any other religion may have ideas that seem to not conflict with Church teaching, the authoritative documents are very clear in that only approved readings are to be used for the liturgical rites of the Church.
 
It seems to me the idea is not to replace the bible readings. Rather it is about composing some intercessions.

The Roman Missal has a prayer on Good Friday, as part of the intercessions:

“Let us pray for those who do not believe in Christ, that the light of the Holy Spirit may show them the way to salvation.
Silent prayer. Then the priest sings or says:
Almighty and eternal God, enable those who do not acknowledge Christ to find the truth as they walk before you in sincerity of heart. Help us to grow in love for one another, to grasp more fully the mystery of your godhead, and to become more perfect witnesses of your love in the sight of men. We ask this through Christ our Lord. R. Amen.”
(Roman Missal, Catholic Book Publishing Co., New York, 1985, page 154.)

This comes after the prayer for the Jewish people, before the one “For those who do not believe in God.”

The Rite of Marriage includes a ceremony “Rite for Celebrating Marriage Between a Catholic and an Unbaptized Person”.

“64. If circumstances require, the blessing of the bride and bridegroom can be omitted. If used, it is combined with the general intercessions (prayer of the faithful) in this order:
a) First the priest uses the invitatory of any blessing of the couple (see the first part of nos. 33, 120, and 121) or any other, taken from any approved formula for the general intercessions.
b) Immediately after the invitatory, there can be either a brief period of silence, or a series of petitions from the prayer of the faithful with responses by the people. All the petitions should be in harmony with the blessing which follows, but should not duplicate it.
c) Then, omitting the prayer that concludes the prayer of the faithful, the priest blesses the bride and the bridegroom:”

(The Rites Volume One, Liturgical Press, 1990, ISBN: 0-8146-6015-0, pages 743-744.)
 
John_Lilburne said:
It seems to me the idea is not to replace the bible readings. Rather it is about composing some intercessions.

The Roman Missal has a prayer on Good Friday, as part of the intercessions:

“Let us pray for those who do not believe in Christ, that the light of the Holy Spirit may show them the way to salvation.
Silent prayer. Then the priest sings or says:
Almighty and eternal God, enable those who do not acknowledge Christ to find the truth as they walk before you in sincerity of heart. Help us to grow in love for one another, to grasp more fully the mystery of your godhead, and to become more perfect witnesses of your love in the sight of men. We ask this through Christ our Lord. R. Amen.”
(Roman Missal, Catholic Book Publishing Co., New York, 1985, page 154.)

This comes after the prayer for the Jewish people, before the one “For those who do not believe in God.”

The Rite of Marriage includes a ceremony “Rite for Celebrating Marriage Between a Catholic and an Unbaptized Person”.

“64. If circumstances require, the blessing of the bride and bridegroom can be omitted. If used, it is combined with the general intercessions (prayer of the faithful) in this order:
a) First the priest uses the invitatory of any blessing of the couple (see the first part of nos. 33, 120, and 121) or any other, taken from any approved formula for the general intercessions.
b) Immediately after the invitatory, there can be either a brief period of silence, or a series of petitions from the prayer of the faithful with responses by the people. All the petitions should be in harmony with the blessing which follows, but should not duplicate it.
c) Then, omitting the prayer that concludes the prayer of the faithful, the priest blesses the bride and the bridegroom:”

(The Rites Volume One, Liturgical Press, 1990, ISBN: 0-8146-6015-0, pages 743-744.)
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However, the question was also raised about readings.
 
This seems a little tricky, but with care I think it could be done. Probably best to stay away from statements about the Prophet, peace be upon him, etc etc. But I don’t think most of us would find it offensive to quote a verse in the Prayers of the Faithful like

That we may all remember
There is no deity except Him; He gives life and causes death. [He is] your Lord and the Lord of your first forefathers.
We pray to the Lord…

Obviously that one is a little awkward and the death part is theologically iffy, but I’m sure someone familiar with the Quran could trot out some inoffensive verses that would satisfy the desire to include a bit of quranic verse.
 
benedictgal said:
Regardless of whether or not the Koran or any other religion may have ideas that seem to not conflict with Church teaching, the authoritative documents are very clear in that only approved readings are to be used for the liturgical rites of the Church.
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thanks.I’ve never been married so I didn’t know that the Church had a specific procedure .
 
I might be missing something, but I think it is highly offensive and inappropriate to propose reading the Koran in a Catholic Church, the very place where the Incarnate Son of God resides in His Eucharistic Presence in the tabernacle, from a book of a different religion which denies His divinity. It is syncretism of perhaps the worst kind.

I’m surprised there is no document or rule about this.
 
Irish_Hare said:
I might be missing something, but I think it is highly offensive and inappropriate to propose reading the Koran in a Catholic Church, the very place where the Incarnate Son of God resides in His Eucharistic Presence in the tabernacle, from a book of a different religion which denies His divinity. It is syncretism of perhaps the worst kind.
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I wouldn’t call it syncretism if it reiterates Catholic teaching.

By the way, if by your assessment this is syncretism of the worst kind, what would be some of the better kinds of syncretism?
 
Irish_Hare said:
I might be missing something, but I think it is highly offensive and inappropriate to propose reading the Koran in a Catholic Church, the very place where the Incarnate Son of God resides in His Eucharistic Presence in the tabernacle, from a book of a different religion which denies His divinity. It is syncretism of perhaps the worst kind.

I’m surprised there is no document or rule about this.
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they probally dont have a document cause its just common sense 😛
 
Irish_Hare said:
I’m pretty sure that it is not permitted to read the Koran in the Catholic Church.

But I can’t find any Church rules on this.

Can anyone help?

The context is some kind of blessing service in a Catholic Church of a couple who married in England. The couple is a Ctaholic and a Muslim.

So they want some readings… from the Koran.

The original question from another forum is below to give the context:
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As benedictGal said (with document quotes), that’s totally unacceptable.
 
TheMc said:
As benedictGal said (with document quotes), that’s totally unacceptable.
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Unfortunately, those quotes only regulate the liturgical readings. In spite of the thread title and the OP’s use of the word, his quotebox of the original question indicates that the proposal is to use a quranic quote in the prayers of the faithful, not in place of the readings.
 
Digitonomy said:
Unfortunately, those quotes only regulate the liturgical readings. In spite of the thread title and the OP’s use of the word, his quotebox of the original question indicates that the proposal is to use a quranic quote in the prayers of the faithful, not in place of the readings.
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Whoops. I misread that. It is still a very bad idea, as Irish Hare said:
Irish Hare:
I might be missing something, but I think it is highly offensive and inappropriate to propose reading the Koran in a Catholic Church, the very place where the Incarnate Son of God resides in His Eucharistic Presence in the tabernacle, from a book of a different religion which denies His divinity.
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However, he does raise the question of reading from the Koran. It says so in his introductory remarks.
 
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