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Brethren , what is Kundalini ? Are Christians in the state of grace able to attain this heightened state of consciousness or psychosis?
Also please give a critique on the issues raised in the following blog. laivewayachurch.blogspot.com
Thank you.
 
I saw on your website reference to chakras, that’s new age, in case you didn’t know
 
It is a new age teaching. I am a medical doctor . That prayer was adapted from another website. I have no proof that xhakras exist . They cannot be noted physically but I get patients complaining of pain in the sites that correspond to the xhakras and end up having this kundalini experience .
 
References to werewolves, alien Greys, fractal gates, and other sci-fi/fantasy creations lead me to think that Jesus would not have much in common with the believer who would be using this prayer.

Remember that Jesus said ‘many will call on me, Lord, Lord, but I will say begone, I never knew you.’ (that is from memory, so the wording might not be correct, but the substance is).

Spiritualist ‘churches’ also call on the name of Jesus during their services, as do Mormons, but I surmise they are not Christian in the true sense of the word. I would say that the website you refer to is put together by a New Age Trekkie conspiracy theorist, who needs to learn a lot more about Christianity and give up the spooky stuff.

Calling on the Name of Jesus for help is not a magic spell that will keep imaginary ghosties and ghoulies at bay.
 
Laive said:
Brethren , what is Kundalini ? Are Christians in the state of grace able to attain this heightened state of consciousness or psychosis?
Also please give a critique on the issues raised in the following blog. laivewayachurch.blogspot.com
Thank you.
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From the site you linked to:
I ask you to change the quantum
matrix inside me, across all
space time continuums, all
dimensions, all time lines and
all frequency domains in this
universe, across all bubbles in
the omniverse and across all
planes of existence so that:
The enemy’s jump gate
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s fractal jump gate
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s transporter
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s fractal
transporter technology will not
function on me
The enemy’s** time travel
technology** will not function on
me.
The enemy’s fractal time travel
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s dimensional
travel technology will not
function on me.
The enemy’s fractal
dimensional travel technology
will not function on me.
The enemy’s wormhole travel
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s fractal wormhole
travel technology will not
function on me.
The enemy’s** implant
technology** will not function on
me.
The enemy’s walk-thru-walls
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s sleep ray
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s remote viewing
capability will not function on
me.
The enemy’s radionics
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s psychotronics
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s psionic
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s death signal
technology will not function on
me.
The enemy’s disease signal
technology will not function on me.

Srsly?!?!?

I know that there are things which science cannot yet explain, and that is fine. It seems that acupuncture works, even tho science cannot explain it, for example. But this “prayer,” altho cast in a Catholic form, seems a little … tin foil hat paranoid to me. I don’t think Satan uses technology to achieve his ends.

That being said, what one might call “heightened states of consciousness” and which the Church calls a contemplative state achieved as a gift from God. From the CCC: ¶2713 Contemplative prayer is the simplest expression of the mystery of prayer. It is a gift, a grace; it can be accepted only in humility and poverty. Contemplative prayer is a covenant relationship established by God within our hearts.9 Contemplative prayer is a communion in which the Holy Trinity conforms man, the image of God, “to his likeness.”

Ecstasies and the like are also gifts given to certain holy people, but they are not to be sought, nor are they considered important.
 
Laive said:
Brethren , what is Kundalini ? Are Christians in the state of grace able to attain this heightened state of consciousness or psychosis?
Also please give a critique on the issues raised in the following blog. laivewayachurch.blogspot.com
Thank you.
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Kundalini & chakras are all part of the ancient Yoga/Budhist/Eastern world view of the human person. According to that view Kundalinin is a natural energy within us that is mostly dormant. The chakras are centers of energy aligned with the spine through which this energy flows.

Here is an intersting interpretation of the Book of Revelation that sees it all as a metaphor for kundalini.

books.google.com/books/about/The_Revelation_of_St_John.html?id=QibBdEj8peMC

Bottom line: Mystery; better not to tamper.
 
St_Francis said:
Ecstasies and the like are also gifts given to certain holy people, but they are not to be sought, nor are they considered important.
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If they are not to be sought, does that mean they are bad things to experience?

Couldn’t they be useful in advancing a soul toward spiritual maturity?
 
Laive said:
Brethren , what is Kundalini ? Are Christians in the state of grace able to attain this heightened state of consciousness or psychosis?
Also please give a critique on the issues raised in the following blog. laivewayachurch.blogspot.com
Thank you.
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Kundalini is the name of a Hindu false goddess, otherwise known as shakti. shakti is known as the coiled serpent goddess at the base of the spine that travels up the spine to unite with her mate, lord shiva, another false god. This supposed ‘union’ creates a ‘spiritual’ or ‘mystical’ experience. We must be very careful in not allowing such a counterfeit of the Holy Spirit entering our lives.

Thus, persons involved with the names of kundalini and her mate shiva are in danger of worshipping other gods. We have only one true God, and we must remain faithful to the one true God, or be guilty of the transgression of the ancient Israelites.

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God’s peace be with you

micah
 
Pitcharan said:
‘Keep away’ is my advice.
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Richard320 said:
People thought LSD was a shortcut to Enlightenment, too.
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Perhaps the word “ecstasy” has different literal meanings. I’m talking about a state of mind in which no matter what the surroundings or circumstances, I am absolutely and completely filled with unspeakable amounts of love, energy, and a warmth richer than the sun’s, followed by an (name removed by moderator)ouring of serenity and healing into my heart, mind, and soul. So I speak of personal experience, ignorant of what others, whether saints or new-agers, have written. :o

The Lord has given me these things as part of the healing process. I actually mentally deduced this state of mind could exist, from pondering the mysteries and after 11 years and 50,000 hours of prayer and study. But it was all in my mind and prayers only for a long time before I was apparently ready to receive the actual experience as gift from the Lord. Maybe others would be afraid to hope or pray for that, but after severe psychosis my mind was pretty pliable. End result: my family, my psychiatrist, and my pastor all see the healing has been profound – beyond medical hope much less expectations. :gopray2:

So I suppose some people are afraid to imagine, much less endure, an absolutely “positive-only” state of mind, even for a short time. It can undermine a lot of what our ego very strongly holds onto, like pulling up roots. This can create quite the mental puzzle that most people would have to leave their comfort zones (their “old wineskins”) to take on. It can be disorienting at first, but no worse than any other passion or human drama. :whacky:

When these happened, which took place in many settings including during prayer and while driving, I was able to extract the nuanced differences in my thoughts and feelings, and both prayed to the Lord and asked of my subconscious mind to influence my quiescent state of mind to the extent that the positive attributes – measured by the sensation of fruit of the spirit – were optimized, given my current state of mind and spiritual maturity. 🤓

What I have concluded is that the kingdom of heaven Jesus talks about can be sought through a correctly formed “attitude” (related to Beatitude) with hope for success, and not only for after we die. That’s my favorite aspect of the Good News. These are found in part by pondering the mysteries of the various paradoxical stories, parables, and teachings of our Lord. :bible1:

People have told me, “don’t open your mind so much or your brains will fall out.” To which I have several replies, one of which is, “that’s the point. Get them out of here so the Lord can install some that work right.” :stretcher:

And He has, and I will forever be in awe and gratitude. :bowdown:

Praise to the Lord, the Almighty! :harp:

Alan
 
AlanFromWichita said:
…The Lord has given me these things as part of the healing process. I actually mentally deduced this state of mind could exist, from pondering the mysteries and after 11 years and 50,000 hours of prayer and study. …
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Far more research has been done by others. Thomas Merton did the most. If you are interested in mysticism, Ruusbroec would be best in my opinion. Keep away from the east. West is best when it comes to mystical union with God.
 
The thing about Kundalinin is that it can be “awakened” by breathing techniques and exercises. That is the point of the Kundalini yoga. But even in those techniques there is great caution expressed about doing them without the direction of someone who knows what they are doing. The danger is less spiritual and more pscyhological. The brain after all, is a very complex and delicate entity.

Now if the energy somehow begins to activiate on it’s own, through the working of the Holy Spirit, that is up to God and will certianly involve a moral conversion and spiritual purging.
 
Pitcharan said:
Far more research has been done by others. Thomas Merton did the most. If you are interested in mysticism, Ruusbroec would be best in my opinion. Keep away from the east. West is best when it comes to mystical union with God.
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I have no doubt others have done more study than I have. I am far from thinking myself as a scholar. Honestly, it isn’t relevant except that I still have some pride issues so I tend to offer “credentials” in case of people who don’t think I have “authority” or whatever, to say the things I say. I guess I don’t want to come across as winner of some lottery that I have something nobody else does. As time goes on I find less and less need to explain myself.

Alan
 
AlanFromWichita said:
I have no doubt others have done more study than I have. I am far from thinking myself as a scholar. Honestly, it isn’t relevant except that I still have some pride issues so I tend to offer “credentials” in case of people who don’t think I have “authority” or whatever, to say the things I say. I guess I don’t want to come across as winner of some lottery that I have something nobody else does. As time goes on I find less and less need to explain myself.

Alan
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Sorry Alan. My apparent discrediting your credentials was unintended and my only purpose was to stress the dangers of eastern mysticism.
 
Pitcharan said:
Sorry Alan. My apparent discrediting your credentials was unintended and my only purpose was to stress the dangers of eastern mysticism.
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Oh, no problem. I’m not quite sure what I was thinking earlier because I know you’re not like that. Luckily I took a nap since then. 😉

Alan
 
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