LA Religious Congress 2014

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Did the Byzantine Divine Liturgy also feature gyrating liturgical movement?
Considering the Byzantine community were the liturgical coordinators, I don’t think so. Interestingly, they were swinging an empty thurible. The hotel ballrooms do not allow incense because the smoke detectors are too sensitive. 🤷

The photos aren’t up yet from this year, so here’s a link to last year’s Byzantine Divine Liturgy: recongress.org/2013/satbyz.htm
 
I think I can safely say that no Eastern priest, Catholic or Orthodox, would touch this sort of event with a 1000 mile pole. The liturgical “experimentation” of the West has been a major sore spot in relations with the East. More than a few Catholics have left the Church for Orthodoxy for chiefly liturgical reasons.
That is a poor reason to break Communion with Peter. Of course, I can think of almost no reason to break with Holy Mother Church, other than that of her doctrines being proven entirely wrong. Of course, that would be impossible.
 
I don’t know what a clown Mass is. It certainly did not originate where I’m from. It may surprise you, but our previous bishop did not take kindly to the certain years we had either too much flowers or banners.
Essentially, it’s a Mass (usually, I hope, valid) where the celebrant and congregation dress as poor imitations of circus entertainers (usually none of them actually are clowns). That’s at least one meaning.

The other is one where the priest, while incorporating some cultural elements of the circus community in the liturgy, is most recognizably a reverent Mass, not too different from the normal, except that the nature of the congregation tends to be circus performers (who IIRC are disproportionately Catholic, go figure). But I doubt it’s that definition which is being evoked.

Look, I might find some of the methods the bishops use for inculturation a little bit tacky for my taste, but I’m not the bishop or the Holy Father (thank God). My taste to a large extent, is irrelevant.
 
Actually, the Byzantine Catholic Eparchy of Phoenix sponsored a booth this year at the Exhibitor’s Hall and they coordinated a Byzantine Divine Liturgy on Saturday, which was presided over by the Most Rev. Gerald Dino. I also met a really nice Slovakian Byzantine priest who told me and gave some pamphlets about the International Theological Institute in Austria. 😃
Yet the Byzantines, I’m sure, saw no need to incorporate liturgical novelties in an attempt to appeal to the masses.
 
That is a poor reason to break Communion with Peter. Of course, I can think of almost no reason to break with Holy Mother Church, other than that of her doctrines being proven entirely wrong. Of course, that would be impossible.
Objectively this is true; however, I sympathize with those whose faith has been challenged by the state of the liturgy in much of the Latin Church. It does scandalize the East and we should be seeking to remove obstacles to unity, not make excuses.
 
Yet the Byzantines, I’m sure, saw no need to incorporate liturgical novelties in an attempt to appeal to the masses.
If you’ve talked to a few Byzantines, some of them don’t take kindly to what they call “Latinizations,” of their rite which they consider “novelties in an attempt to appeal to the masses.” :rolleyes:
 
If you’ve talked to a few Byzantines, some of them don’t take kindly to what they call “Latinizations,” of their rite which they consider “novelties in an attempt to appeal to the masses.” :rolleyes:
I think you misunderstand what a Latinization is. They include many venerable and holy traditions of the Latin rite which simply do not belong to our rite. They include such traditions as Stations of the Cross, Eucharistic Adoration, the use of confessionals, the use of unleavened bread, the Filioque, and Holy Water fonts at the entrance to the church. None of these is a “novelty in an attempt to appeal to the masses”. Each of these is perfectly acceptable, in its proper place. The proper place is not in a Byzantine church.

Liturgical abuse is something else entirely and has no place in any rite.
 
That is a poor reason to break Communion with Peter. Of course, I can think of almost no reason to break with Holy Mother Church, other than that of her doctrines being proven entirely wrong. Of course, that would be impossible.
Indeed, they are poor reasons, but I can understand their frustration and motivation. Bad liturgy hurts the church! Lex orandi lex credendi lex vivendi!
 
It was with some glee that I noticed that radical Catalonian nun Sister Teresa Forcades had been struck from the rolls of LAREC 2014. I wondered just why she had been cancelled and today I found the answer: she had been turned down by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, probably because she gets much mileage from criticizing the Church hierarchy and supports extreme-left political causes such as women’s ordination and abortion. There is currently a petition at the radical left website Change.ORG (no, I will not link it) to reinstate her on the rolls of LAREC speakers.

I just wanted faithful Catholics to know that at least a little bit is being done to clean up the questionable speakers at LAREC. It may not all be done by tomorrow, but little by little, it is now improving, and we have +Gomez to credit for that.
 
It was with some glee that I noticed that radical Catalonian nun Sister Teresa Forcades had been struck from the rolls of LAREC 2014. I wondered just why she had been cancelled and today I found the answer: she had been turned down by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, probably because she gets much mileage from criticizing the Church hierarchy and supports extreme-left political causes such as women’s ordination and abortion. There is currently a petition at the radical left website Change.ORG (no, I will not link it) to reinstate her on the rolls of LAREC speakers.

I just wanted faithful Catholics to know that at least a little bit is being done to clean up the questionable speakers at LAREC. It may not all be done by tomorrow, but little by little, it is now improving, and we have +Gomez to credit for that.
Indeed.
 
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