Lack of vibrancy at youth group meetings

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What steps do you take to improve the atmosphere of a youth group? At the moment the group is running Mark Hart’s teen bible study, a program I would highly recommend. There is however a lack of vibrancy in meetings. People arrive and stand around with little conversation occuring, which equals an awkward situation. Our youth leaders both of whom are inexperienced volunteers have attempted to organise games but can’t seem to understand when the teens don’t want to play scarecrow or fruit salad. The group has an average of 10-12 high school age kids attending but I am afraid these numbers will drop rather than grow since no one appears to be enjoying themselves.

If you have ideas on how I can help clear the current stagnant atmosphere let me know.
God bless!
 
Are these kids coming on their own or being force to go by their parents?
 
Its hard to say. There are definitely a few who do come on their own initiative but they seem to lack a sense of confidence in participating.
 
High school is all about individuality. Try using ice breakers to allow them to share these aspects of themselves (perhaps a beach ball with questions written in permanent marker all around it, when they catch it they have to answer whatever is on top).

From there, I would suggest maybe asking them to bring up topics that they’re having a hard time rectifying with the faith (you know they’re thinking about it) and work towards helping them understand it better. Admittedly, they’re probably going to throw a few curveballs at you, so I would suggest getting one of those “where does it say that in the Bible” or similar books.

Doing anything structured is going to drive them away… Work towards making it engaging for them; something that helps them encounter each other where they are in their faith journey, even if they’ve taken a detour.:o
 
I would also suggest introducing some enjoyable food, like pizza or chips or something. and soft drink. high school kids are often simply starving… I remember those years… 😃 Plus lends an informal atmosphere that can spark conversation “Oh I hate anchovies.” “Me too!” before you know it there’s some life in the room. I think it’s not for nothing Jesus chose the sharing of food as one of his greatest sacraments.
 
Have you asked the kids what they would like to do?

Second, by the time they’re of high school age they should be involved in planning activities, not having adults take charge of everything. Why are they coming to a Catholic youth group? Primarily for bible study? For fun? To spend time with Catholic peers? And what would help them to get what it is they’re looking for? Bible study is fine if that’s what they’re looking for, but if they want to know about how to get more out of Mass or how to pray, it’s not going to do much for them. If they are looking for fellowship, then something class-like isn’t going to accomplish it.

My primary suggestion would be to ask them what they want and let them lead with guidance and assistance from adults.
 
A lot of the games create awkwardness. Maybe try throwing a party/mixer where they can get to know each other more on their own. Organizing a retreat weekend or lock-in might be good, too.
 
Where is the Director of Religious Education? Why are volunteers driving the train?
Who writes the curriculum? Who plans?
I have plenty of volunteers helping me, but I decide what happens, and we keep them engages, and switch gears every 15 minutes or so.
They are always surprised when it’s time to go home.
 
Thank you for all the advice 🙂 I especially like the idea of getting the youth involved in the planning of each meeting.

Coming from a small parish with a liberal and aging congregation (establishing any group with more than five members is a miracle) the amount of support is limited. Also the local Catholic school is quite disconnected from the parish so recruiting new members is a challenge. The volunteers I previously mentioned have an extremely basic theological understanding, thus the reason we have gone straight into a Bible study, suggested by one of the parents.
 
If you want a healthy and vibrant youth group they need a mission. They should not be meeting for the sole purpose of socializing and playing games. I find this focus to be the biggest mistake youth groups make.

Have the group discuss needs in the community and then commit to filling those needs. Is it litter clean up, cleaning yards up for the sick and elderly, working on the parish grounds, or providing care for children during Mass? Without a mission that involves service to the community the group might as well disband now.

Service to the community and learning about the Bible and what it means to be a Catholic have to be at the heart of the groups reason for existence. Everything else is superficial and secondary.
 
In addition, any good youth group should cover MORALITY.
Talk to the students about the issues and pressures they are enduring in their schools and their peer groups.
Someone (hopefully the pastor & DRE) should put together a solid curriculum, and get the catechists well trained.
 
One of the things we did at our college’s women’s group was to start with a really cool icebreaker. We would sit in a circle, introduce ourselves, and then tell everyone what was the best thing that happened to us that week. It was amazing, because it was a very genuine way of getting to know something about a person.
 
One of the things we did at our college’s women’s group was to start with a really cool icebreaker. We would sit in a circle, introduce ourselves, and then tell everyone what was the best thing that happened to us that week. It was amazing, because it was a very genuine way of getting to know something about a person.
That does sound really fun, but you have to realize that with teens? One or two talkative girls will participate. The others will just say “uh,dunno”. Especially the boys.
that’s why ice breaker games work better than putting them on the spot.
The minute to win it games are a big hit with teens, and utilize easy to find and cheap materials.
After that…you’d better have great content and present it well. There’s no short-cuts. The parish needs to make a commitment to these kids. Budget for a good curriculum. And follow it. The kids deserve the best instruction a parish can put together.
 
You know it seems to be just indifference of the younger generation about faith in general.They don’t seem to have the gravity of importance of the mass. I’m not sure if you have heard of him, but Christopher Stefanick does some fantastic videos, maybe you could watch some of them and get a discussion going afterwards.

I think the video on the mass here is a pretty good place to start.
youtube.com/watch?v=1fvX_LTK7Bk&list=UU9Gin8zVjjzywF_sW9fkODA
 
What proportion of time should be dedicated to games/fun/socialization in comparison to learning/discussion time? Also, how do you set out the meetings i.e. begin with socialization, or break it up in intervals, etc.

Given your recommendations, I will work to encourage the Parish to employ a Youth Minister.
On the subject, what is the approximate budget for the salary of a part-time (2-3 days a week) youth minister?
 
What proportion of time should be dedicated to games/fun/socialization in comparison to learning/discussion time? Also, how do you set out the meetings i.e. begin with socialization, or break it up in intervals, etc.

Given your recommendations, I will work to encourage the Parish to employ a Youth Minister.
On the subject, what is the approximate budget for the salary of a part-time (2-3 days a week) youth minister?
I typically chunk the meeting into 15 minute slots, with 5-10 minutes at the beginning to get name tags and get settled. I use games, skits, and interactive play to convey the topic of the evening, with conversation time to hear their feedback, followed by pizza and other snacks. We open with Mass and close with prayer in the Church. I give the kids cameras, and they record each other to create “Youth TV”. It keeps them interested.
 
What proportion of time should be dedicated to games/fun/socialization in comparison to learning/discussion time? Also, how do you set out the meetings i.e. begin with socialization, or break it up in intervals, etc.

Given your recommendations, I will work to encourage the Parish to employ a Youth Minister.
On the subject, what is the approximate budget for the salary of a part-time (2-3 days a week) youth minister?
Start with a sign in process, let them visit, greet each other, Catholic Praise music playing.
After opening prayer, announce the theme for the night…welcome newcomers, congratulate birthday kids. Have a brief (no more than 8-10 min) ice breaker game that is somehow related to the theme. For ex: getting to know God…use a game that has them asking each other identifying questions while blindfolded. Give them 5 mins. Then remove blindfolds and ask them to identify who they were paired with.
Move to the teaching. Start with a Bible passage that exemplified what you’re teaching. Teach, using the appropriate catechism references and personal experience to illustrate your point. Ask pre-prepared questions. Break into small groups and ask questions that go deeper. Encourage them to share, let them drive this part. Answer their questions frankly.
Let them know you can be trusted. Take their questions seriously. In the rare event that you don’t have an answer, tell them you will get the answer form the priest and let the whole group know next week. No names necessary. Don’t put anyone on the spot.
Come back together for the large group and do a brain break (find these online…2 minute quirky exercises to loosen people up. Have another adult reinforce and build on the first 10-12 minutes lesson. Break for some sort of snack, again with music playing so they can visit with each other. They need a chance to let out their energy and chat. Come back together with some kind of handout which summarizes what you’re trying to teach for the evening, and ask them to write on index cards something they got out of the discussion that they may want to meditate on during the week.
Gather somewhere prayerful (around the Baptismal font, in the pews of the church, in the chapel, a prayer garden) and take prayer intentions from the individuals present, and lead them in prayer. Tell them about a particular saint that applies to the lesson, maybe with a takeaway such as a holy card (bought or home made in the office on cardstock) that they can take home to remember the night. Tell them you are happy they came…and you look forward to interacting with them next week. Tell them you will pray for them. Assure them of your prayers. We do a small drawing of the name of everyone registered. Even if they are not there, when I draw a name, they will tell their friend “you should have been there! She gave a Starbucks gift card…she gave a saint bracelet…she gave a cd!” They will let their friends know they missed something cool. I keep drawing names until someone wins. Sometimes it’s candy. Or a goofy cap. Or a harmonica. Bubbles. Anything. A pretty journal. A coke!

At appropriate times during the year, review confession procedures, what the Triduum is about, invite them to someone’s sibling’s baptism,. remind them of an elderly person in the parish that needs their prayers or their lawn raked. Have service projects planned every 4 weeks. have a point system. Attendance counts for a point. Service counts for 3 points.
Winning a small group challenge counts for 2 points per person. At the end of the semester, the small group with the most point goes bowling and pizza or a movie together. Whatever you can swing. Boys especially love this kind of competition. Paintball. Yeah.

Salary? Wow. Depends on your area. Where we are a part time youth minister is about 15-18 grand. Low, I know, but many people do it as a second job. Hardly anyone makes a living in parishes. Unless the parish is huge.
You’ll need a meeting place with areas where you can bust out into small groups, or go outside in small groups. You’ll need a good sound system, and preferably a microphone for when the group gets big. You’ll need to design and give them tee shirts, so that when they perform service for the parish, the people will see where their donation dollars went and understand the youth group is invested in the parish. If you can’t afford the tees. ask the businessmen of the parish to take out ads on the back of the shirts to cover the cost.
Hope this helps.
Clare
 
What steps do you take to improve the atmosphere of a youth group? At the moment the group is running Mark Hart’s teen bible study, a program I would highly recommend. There is however a lack of vibrancy in meetings. People arrive and stand around with little conversation occuring, which equals an awkward situation. Our youth leaders both of whom are inexperienced volunteers have attempted to organise games but can’t seem to understand when the teens don’t want to play scarecrow or fruit salad. The group has an average of 10-12 high school age kids attending but I am afraid these numbers will drop rather than grow since no one appears to be enjoying themselves.

If you have ideas on how I can help clear the current stagnant atmosphere let me know.
God bless!
  1. Adoration. Actually this should be 1,2 and 3.
  2. A mandatory overnight retreat. With letters from the parents and confession available.
  3. Do not fall into the idea of an exciting vibrant youth group every week. Faith based on a high or emotion is bound to fail.
  4. I Have done the mark heart bible study for a youth program. Scrap it. Scrap all video based programs.
  5. Break up the cliques. Take notice of what the cliques are and separate them into different small groups. Hold fast to the assignments. (you will be surprised at the methods employed to try to switch up the groups.)
  6. make the youth group more than an indoor study hall. Actively take them out for service projects. One of my favorites is a scavenger hunt for the local food bank. Give them items, get some parents to drive (don’t let the teens drive) and go to neighborhoods collecting the items needed. Award points for items and the kids will love it.
  7. I don’t know how your parish is, but sometimes you need to branch off and have your own group. Not lifeteen, not DTS or anything, but just tailor it to your parish’s personality. This will depend on the program the priest or the DRE want. But smaller parishes tend not to have these problems.
  8. And I think this is the most important besides adoration. Youth group’s main focus should be Catechism, the kids sit for hours learning more complex subjects than you or I would know in school. They play sports or other activities with their friends, they go to Mass with their families, youth group should be about faith, learning and getting a message across. Vibrancy need not really be a stick with which we measure a youth program.
Salary.

That is a tough one. Many youth groups run a salary of $0 But some, like my old one was about $30k. But that was running a jr high program, a high school program, confirmation, for a total of over 100 kids in a wealthy parish. Our current parish has a youth group run by and only by Father. While many youth ministry jobs are “part time” I tend to look at the job itself rather than hourly or daily rates. If the youth minister gets the job done I don’t care if it is 7 days a week or 3. As long as they are actively engaged in the teens lives.

Honestly salary should depend on the parish.
 
That does sound really fun, but you have to realize that with teens? One or two talkative girls will participate. The others will just say “uh,dunno”. Especially the boys.
Boy oh boy are you right. I had to make a rule. If you come to youth group and eat our pizza you MUST participate. Neither I or the other small group leaders are going to make you answer embarrassing personal questions. But when we spend a half hour on a verse in the Bible or a Saint and we ask how it could apply to your life you better have a real answer. I view this as basic life lessons that they need to learn. In a few years they will be saying “I dunno” to something in an interview.:rolleyes:

I noticed many of the parochial school members of the youth group would not pay attention and then when called on they would yell out “God is love” to any question they were asked. Well, that and "Catholic means “Universal” LOL
 
Thank you so much pianistclare and Hoosier Daddy for your detailed and insightful reponses. God bless you for your dedication in evangelisation. This is exactly the detailed advice needed! 🙂
 
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