Laity giving blessings

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Does anyone know what would be the official stance of the Church as far as laity giving blessings. The congregation is often asked to extend our hands to bless children or a couple or a person. I know the priests and deacons can give a blessing, but how about the lay people in the pews?

Any particular benefit to it or a nice symbol or out of line?
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My understanding is that laity do not formally confer blessings upon one another as you describe, though I think there is an exception that parents may extend blessings to their children. I do not have any documentation at hand, however.

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SrJMMfti:
Does anyone know what would be the official stance of the Church as far as laity giving blessings.
Keeping the official stance under wraps is the modus operandi of the post-conciliar church. It is how they have advanced so fast and so far these past 40 years in the debasement of all that is Catholic.

When I attended the N.O. Mass and was in communion with our post-conciliar bishop, I refused to give the Nazi salute. I stood in the front row of the church and looked back with disdain on all the sheep dutifully raising their right arms in the supposed blessing and thought to myself, how is this any different than what happened in Germany during the 1930’s? People doing what they are told, obeying orders.

At least you have the courage and intellectual honesty and spiritual sensitivity to question this latest abomination. God Bless You, Albert Cipriani the Traditional Catholic
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From EWTN’s frequently asked questions page:

Who has the capacity to bless another person? I know that clergy may bless, but can laity do this also? And if the laity blesses, what exact formula is involved, and what is appropriate? Do they have power of laying on hands, like the Apostles did? Thanks and God Bless You Nick

Answer by Rev. Mark J. Gantley, JCL on 09-29-2004: Priests and bishops can always bless people.

Deacons can bless according to the blessings permitted in the Book of Blessings, which are rather broad. So deacons generally can bless people in most circumstances.

Laity can only bless people in restricted circumstances and following specific guidelines and using the official words. For example, parents can always bless their own children, making the sign of the cross on their foreheads. This blessing is based in Scripture and the relationship of authority and responsibility that parents have with their children.

I would suggest reviewing the official Book of Blessings for other circumstances where lay people can bless. I cannot think of any circumstance where a lay person can do the laying on of hands. The Book of Blessings is clear that lay persons, when giving blessings, do not imitate gestures reserved to the ordained (e.g., making a large sign of the cross). Often, the blessings by a lay person uses different wording, such as “May God bless us…” rather than “you.” A widespread abuse that I have noticed and have tried to correct in a prior parish was to see extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion bless children who have not yet received first Holy Communion with a large sign of the cross at Communion time. This is clearly outside of the norms of law. At most what might seem justified would be simply to say, “God bless you,” like someone might say to another person when they sneeze. This might be justified by the force of custom, although I would not be surprised if the Congregation of Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments condemned this at some point.
 
Dr. Colossus:
Deacons can bless according to the blessings permitted in the Book of Blessings, which are rather broad.
Right! Would you believe the permissions are as broad as a swimming pool?

The Novus Ordo deacon who buried my uncle a few months ago joked at the graveside that as soon as he became a deacon, he went into his back yard and blessed his swimming pool so that his wife would never be without holy water. I consider that a sacrilige that’s recommitted every time they go for a swim or a toddler pisses in it or an insect drowns in it. Incensed, Albert Cipriani the Traditional Catholic
 
albert cipriani:
Keeping the official stance under wraps is the modus operandi of the post-conciliar church. It is how they have advanced so fast and so far these past 40 years in the debasement of all that is Catholic.
I love this term that many “traditionalists” love to throw out. Post-conciliar. As if Vatican II was the first council.

The “post-conciliar” Church has exisited since the first council, which could either be the meeing in Jerusalem as recorded in the book of Acts or the Council of Nicaea in 325.
 
albert cipriani:
Right! Would you believe the permissions are as broad as a swimming pool?

The Novus Ordo deacon who buried my uncle a few months ago joked at the graveside that as soon as he became a deacon, he went into his back yard and blessed his swimming pool so that his wife would never be without holy water. I consider that a sacrilige that’s recommitted every time they go for a swim or a toddler pisses in it or an insect drowns in it. Incensed, Albert Cipriani the Traditional Catholic
I was not addressing the unfortunate abuses that can occur. I was providing the answer that in some cases the laity are allowed to impart blessings. If the deacon in question truly did what he said (after all,l you did say he was joking), then I believe that it was a sad error on his part. As a sacramental, holy water should be kept as pure as possible and reserved for special use, not used in a swimming pool!
 
albert cipriani:
Keeping the official stance under wraps is the modus operandi of the post-conciliar church. It is how they have advanced so fast and so far these past 40 years in the debasement of all that is Catholic.

When I attended the N.O. Mass and was in communion with our post-conciliar bishop, I refused to give the Nazi salute. I stood in the front row of the church and looked back with disdain on all the sheep dutifully raising their right arms in the supposed blessing and thought to myself, how is this any different than what happened in Germany during the 1930’s? People doing what they are told, obeying orders.

At least you have the courage and intellectual honesty and spiritual sensitivity to question this latest abomination. God Bless You, Albert Cipriani the Traditional Catholic
http://www.geocities.com/albert_cipriani/index.html
[groups.yahoo.com/group/ReligiousPhilosophy/](Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos)
It never ceases to amaze me when I realize how much contempt some people have for their fellow Catholics.

Gosh- who else actually bothered listening to the Gospel read at Mass yesterday?
 
albert cipriani:
When I attended the N.O. Mass and was in communion with our post-conciliar bishop, I refused to give the Nazi salute.
The person being blessed was a member of the Third Reich?
I stood in the front row of the church and looked back with disdain on all the sheep dutifully raising their right arms in the supposed blessing
How charitable of you.
and thought to myself, how is this any different than what happened in Germany during the 1930’s? People doing what they are told, obeying orders.
Wow. I mean, I would have to ask myself the same thing. How is prayer to the Lord Almighty in communion with the entire congregation for the blessings of His grace on someone possibly be any different from Nazi soldiers swearing allegiance to a madman?
 
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SeekerJen:
It never ceases to amaze me when I realize how much contempt some people have for their fellow Catholics.

Gosh- who else actually bothered listening to the Gospel read at Mass yesterday?
Which Mass Gospel? The Traditional GOspel for yesterday was Matthew 18:23-25
 
Dr. Colossus:
If the deacon in question truly did what he said (after all,l you did say he was joking), then I believe that it was a sad error on his part. As a sacramental, holy water should be kept as pure as possible and reserved for special use, not used in a swimming pool!
Yes. And the deacon gave every indication that he seriously did bless his swimming pool water. His jokes were in addition to this outrageous swimming pool revelation. I walked away from the graveside out of earshot, so horrible and inappropriate were his attempts at stand up comedy next to a corpse. – Sincerely, Albert Cipriani the Traditional Catholic
 
albert cipriani:
Right! Would you believe the permissions are as broad as a swimming pool?

The Novus Ordo deacon who buried my uncle a few months ago joked at the graveside that as soon as he became a deacon, he went into his back yard and blessed his swimming pool so that his wife would never be without holy water. I consider that a sacrilige that’s recommitted every time they go for a swim or a toddler pisses in it or an insect drowns in it. Incensed, Albert Cipriani the Traditional Catholic
You keep me in stitches! Please, please, please keep posting. :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

I had the priest over for a house blessing. He blessed my hot tub, as well, with all due solemnity. The Holy Spirit has already effected one conversion (a brother-in-law, from unbaptized to full-blown faithful Catholic) as a result of conversations held in the tub. 👍
 
If I had a swimming pool, I would definitely want a priest or deacon to bless it. So many drownings occur in pools. I’d want the area to be blessed, hoping angels would watch over all who recreate there.

But I don’t have one, so…back to the original question!

I have written my pastor about extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion conferring priestly blessings in lieu of Holy Communion upon non-communicants. Certainly, during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, blessings are reserved for the ordained.

In the home, parents bless their children and even their homes, I would expect, with approval of the Church.
 
I looked in a ‘Book of Blessings’ that pertained more to Priest and Deacons’ blessings … nothing about blessings of a Extraordinary Eucharistic Minister of Holy Communion to children etc.

I believe it is an abuse in that … there are to many EMsHC, and some people get confused about the difference of receiving a blessing from a lay person vs an Ordained Minister. By letting this persist it adds fuel to the fire. I believe it ok for EMHC to SAY a blessing but NOT to lay hands on.

I’m still not quite clear … as you say back to the original question.

Fr. Peter Stravinskas addresses this in the tape sets, “Mass of the Third Millinium” for sure and I think in “Redemtionis Sacramentum”.

Joe
 
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katolik:
Which Mass Gospel? The Traditional GOspel for yesterday was Matthew 18:23-25
The Mass Gospel for the rest of us was Luke 18: 9-14, better known as the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector.

I was not aware that the different rites had different lectionaries. I wrongly assumed that all churches in communion with Rome had the same readings. You learn something new each day.
 
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SeekerJen:
The Mass Gospel for the rest of us was Luke 18: 9-14, better known as the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector.

I was not aware that the different rites had different lectionaries. I wrongly assumed that all churches in communion with Rome had the same readings. You learn something new each day.
Not only do we have different lectionaries we also have a different number of readings.

In the Byzantine Divine Liturgy there is a one year cycle of readings, not the three year cycle as the Latin Church has. Also we only have two readings, the Epistle and the Gospel. No Old Testament reading for us.

And there are differences on the Liturgical Calendar too. Our Church year starts on September 1st.

And I know All Saints day is coming up for you in the Latin Church but we celebrated that day back in June (and I believe that it always falls on a Sunday).
 
Is it any wonder that there is a shortage of ordinations, when the laity are allowed to confer “blessings”, distribute Holy Communion, stand at the altar during Mass and handle other duties that should be duties conferred only to ordained priests?
 
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STJOMO:
Is it any wonder that there is a shortage of ordinations, when the laity are allowed to confer “blessings”, distribute Holy Communion, stand at the altar during Mass and handle other duties that should be duties conferred only to ordained priests?
The laity have always been allowed to confer blessings. Those blessing differ from the blessings given by priests.

What duties have the laity taken up that are only to be done by ordained priests?
 
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ByzCath:
Not only do we have different lectionaries we also have a different number of readings.

In the Byzantine Divine Liturgy there is a one year cycle of readings, not the three year cycle as the Latin Church has. Also we only have two readings, the Epistle and the Gospel. No Old Testament reading for us.

And there are differences on the Liturgical Calendar too. Our Church year starts on September 1st.

And I know All Saints day is coming up for you in the Latin Church but we celebrated that day back in June (and I believe that it always falls on a Sunday).
The Traditional Latin lectionary also has only a one year cycle and only the Gospel and Epistle.
 
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