Lap Band Surgery and Sterilization

[KostyaJMJ]

Gastric surgery does not stop the digestive process. It seeks to control it.

Sterilization stops the reproductive process.

If you stop the digestive process, the patient dies.

It doesn’t have to stop the reproductive process. Any procedure that seeks to limit the procreative powers, even if it is only ever so slightly, is against natural law. Even a sexual position that seeks to decrease the odds of conception slightly is seen as a perversion.

The same can’t be said for trying to decrease digestive ability.

 

[Julianna]

Gee, I thought a baby was gift from God, not a “consequence”. Interesting.

Gastric by pass surgery makes a shorter route through the digestive system and “by passes” most of the stomach. Higher risks because it is considered major surgery, even though it can be done without opening you up. Any time the body is “opened” during surgery, there are risks.

With lapband nothing is “opened”, there are 5 incisions and it is all done laparoscopicly, in patient, does not require an overnight stay.

If you over eat after anyone of these surgeries, you will “gain” weight. lapband, you will be bulemic because the food will come right back up as it has no place to go. Forget carbonated drinks, bread of any kind, rice, any food that can puff up.

I have had the surgery, I know. It is easier to reverse than reproductive sterilization.

There is no moral problem with weight loss surgery. So can we stop this silly debate that means absolutely nothing?

 

[KostyaJMJ]

There is no moral problem with weight loss surgery. So can we stop this silly debate that means absolutely nothing?

I am not suggesting there is a moral problem.

Sorry, but you aren’t required to read or reply if anything bothers you. I am not trying to get on your nerves with my stupidity and 'satiable curiosity.

 

[Holly3278]

There is no moral problem with weight loss surgery. So can we stop this silly debate that means absolutely nothing?

I totally agree! It is almost like someone has an agenda to push or something and I, being a candidate for bariatric surgery, feel quite irritated by this. There is absolutely no sin in getting bariatric surgery done! The surgeons make sure that only people who need the surgery get it done. It is not an elective procedure like sterilization is.

And also, this whole idea that people get bariatric surgery just so they can continue with their gluttony (as if that was the original cause of their weight gain to begin with ) is ludicrous! If you get bariatric surgery done and then you overeat all the time, it is going to cause the surgery to be useless and can sometimes stretch your stomach out to where the surgery is basically reversed.

Sterilization is a sin, bariatric surgery is not!

 

[Corki]

It doesn’t have to stop the reproductive process. Any procedure that seeks to limit the procreative powers, even if it is only ever so slightly, is against natural law.

Not true. Many types of surgery have unintended side effects of lessening fertility or potency. These procedures are in no way against the natural law. Examples would be removing a fallopian tube after an ectopic pregnancy, prostate surgery, removal of ovarian cysts, etc. Even many medications for completely legitimate medical reasons affect fertility or potency. They are not immoral or sinful when used as directed. A common example of this is blood pressure medication that causes impotency in some if not many men when used over a long time period.

Even a sexual position that seeks to decrease the odds of conception slightly is seen as a perversion.

Not even close to a truthful statement.

 

[smswife]

I see bariatric surgery as following Jesus’ words, “If your right hand offends thee, cut it off”.

Or, if your overactive appetite is harming you, surgically correct it.

 

[DailyBread]

This all needs to be looked at under the light of what makes an action moral, the act itself, the ends intended and the circumstances.
In sterilization procedure, one attempts to completely harm the reproductive organs in order that the sexual act is simply sought for pleasurable ends and to prevent the ultimate good which is openess to life (hence violating God’s first command to be fruitful and multiply). There are no circumstances where sterilization in order to solely prevent openess to life are allowed.
In bariatric surgery, one decreases stomach size which decreases the amount of food one may comfortably eat and possibly changes the point where digestive juices meet up to decrease absorption of calories (bypass) in order to stop contributing to the pathology of obesity which is a disease. This treatment is not intended to allow one to be gluttonous (dumping syndrome is not fun) nor does it render the good of the digestive track to obtain nutrition nonfunctional (though supplemental vitamins are needed, but that can be easily done and should be).Many of these patients are at extreme levels of obesity and are not at a level of functioning to allow for typical exercise and many of these surgeries can lessen or revert diabetes and weight loss which helps cardiovascular health and decrease cancer risks. If anything, these surgeries assist the person in obtaining the amount of nutrition
right for them that will lead to a healthier life and a longer life (life promoting). The surgery is not about destroying the final end of the digestive tract unlike sterilization. As far as circumstances, this is appropriate only for individuals in these extreme positions and have failed weight loss routines.

A better comparison is sterilization and eating food and vomiting like the Romans did so they could enjoy as much food as they wanted, but frustrate the end purpose of obtaining nutrition.

Hope that helps.