Last Supper Eucharist

[Canardmom85]

I am trying to explain to a friend how the real presence of Christ was in the bread and wine at the Last Supper even though Jesus hadn’t died yet.
I am getting tongue-tied in big words, can someone help me.

 

[1edyson]

John 6 53 to end of chapter. Why, how…because Jesus said so.

 

[AmbroseSJ]

I am trying to explain to a friend how the real presence of Christ was in the bread and wine at the Last Supper even though Jesus hadn’t died yet.
I am getting tongue-tied in big words, can someone help me.

It really doesn’t matter. Now Jesus is risen and in heaven, and it still is true. If it is true now, why the problem with it being true then? Does not Jesus have a body and blood that he would sacrifice that very evening or did sacrifice 2000 years ago?

Is your friend looking for some kind of scientific explanation? That would be impossible. It is also impossible to prove God exists scientifically. Is that a problem for your friend too?

 

[Canardmom85]

This is the best I’ve come up with so far:
Christ was both God and man at the same time. Two-natures. So why bind him to only the presence of a man alone, that’s kinda jewish thinking? He is not subject to time. The Eucharist transcends time and space. The glorified body of Christ was the revelation of his true nature as the Incarnate God that is what we receive.

 

[VociMike]

Look at the tense that Jesus uses when he speaks. He says “this is the flesh which is given…”. Not will be given, but is given. His sacrifice is already presented as being outside of time when he speaks at the Last Supper. His flesh is given, and yet he is standing there.

 

[Canardmom85]

Look at the tense that Jesus uses when he speaks. He says “this is the flesh which is given…”. Not will be given, but is given. His sacrifice is already presented as being outside of time when he speaks at the Last Supper. His flesh is given, and yet he is standing there.

Thanks, very true

 

[Texas_Roofer]

The Passover meal was traditionally the finest lamb (or goat) slaughter as an offering to God to forgive man’s sins, and ask god for forgiveness. At the last supper a lamb is not mentioned, Jesus tells us he is the lamb and he will be slathered for sin. From then on we are to stop offering a lamb and instead consecrate unleavened bread and wine, in memory of his sacrifice for us. Jesus is present in the bread and wine because he comes to it in fulfillment of his instruction. So at the last supper Jesus infused himself into the bread and wine. Now Jesus’ infusion did not change the chemistry of the bread or wine, nor did it require he leave his body, as a deity Jesus can be in all places at once if he chooses.
Hope that helps

 

[CalGBear]

I am trying to explain to a friend how the real presence of Christ was in the bread and wine at the Last Supper even though Jesus hadn’t died yet.
I am getting tongue-tied in big words, can someone help me.

I know you didn’t mean it that way, but to be precise, the real presence of Christ was not in the bread and wine. Once transubstantiation took place, they were no longer bread or wine, but 100% the body and blood, soul and divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

As to your inquiry, remember that God is not bound by the concept of time, so the order of events is no barrier.

 

[RosaryFan]

I am trying to explain to a friend how the real presence of Christ was in the bread and wine at the Last Supper even though Jesus hadn’t died yet.
I am getting tongue-tied in big words, can someone help me.

God transcends time and space. All things are present to God at all times, including the passion. The passion is made ever present to us at Mass - not just a likeness of the sacrifice, the ACTUAL sacrifice. It is as if we are kneeling at the foot of the cross.

 

[Canardmom85]

I know you didn’t mean it that way, but to be precise, the real presence of Christ was not in the bread and wine. Once transubstantiation took place, they were no longer bread or wine, but 100% the body and blood, soul and divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

As to your inquiry, remember that God is not bound by the concept of time, so the order of events is no barrier.

lol, I know, I need to brush up on my wording. thankx