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So the answer is no. “And this He did, as to clarity, in His transfiguration, but otherwise than in a glorified body.”My definition of glorified isa in my post #27
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So the answer is no. “And this He did, as to clarity, in His transfiguration, but otherwise than in a glorified body.”My definition of glorified isa in my post #27
H.H. Pope Paul VI, The Credo of the People of God, 1968:Ok, then can you tell us how we are receiving Jesus glorified body now when we are supposed to be receiving the same Eucharist Jesus offered at the last supper?
https://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/p6credo.htmWe believe that as the bread and wine consecrated by the Lord at the Last Supper were changed into His body and His blood which were to be offered for us on the cross, likewise the bread and wine consecrated by the priest are changed into the body and blood of Christ enthroned gloriously in heaven, and we believe that the mysterious presence of the Lord, under what continues to appear to our senses as before, is a true, real and substantial presence.
So the Eucharist we receive now isn’t the same as the Eucharist given at the Last Supper?We believe that as the bread and wine consecrated by the Lord at the Last Supper were changed into His body and His blood which were to be offered for us on the cross, likewise the bread and wine consecrated by the priest are changed into the body and blood of Christ enthroned gloriously in heaven,
Divinity, soul, body-blood, as it is at the time of reception. Essence is what a thing is. We don’t focus on the miraculous appearances of the species of bread and wine but on the words of Christ of what is received.Vico:![]()
So the Eucharist we receive now isn’t the same as the Eucharist given at the Last Supper?We believe that as the bread and wine consecrated by the Lord at the Last Supper were changed into His body and His blood which were to be offered for us on the cross, likewise the bread and wine consecrated by the priest are changed into the body and blood of Christ enthroned gloriously in heaven,
The Eucharistic presence of Christ is the same now as then.So, is the Eucharist we receive now the same Eucharist at the Last Supper?
1377 The Eucharistic presence of Christ begins at the moment of the consecration and endures as long as the Eucharistic species subsist. Christ is present whole and entire in each of the species and whole and entire in each of their parts, in such a way that the breaking of the bread does not divide Christ. 207
I think you can say that because the body to be offered then was not glorified until the resurrection.So the Eucharist is glorified now, but not then?
Jesus did not have his glorified body until his resurrection. A glorified body is immortal and does not undergo corruption and death but Jesus died on the cross. Accordingly, at the Last Supper, Jesus transubstantiated his non-glorified body and blood, that is, the very body the apostles could see and in which Jesus was to suffer and die in on the cross. A glorified body is not essential for God to perform the work of transubstantiation. Since Jesus’ resurrection, transubstantiation involves Jesus’ glorified and resurrected body, a body nonetheless of flesh, bones, and blood.So, was Jesus in the Eucharist, at the First Supper glorified or not? Aquinas says no.