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Carmel1
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Isn’t it considered not attending Mass if ppl habitually show up somewhere in between the 2 readings? and that said ppl should not be receiving communion? 
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Julian0404
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I believe it is if you miss the Gospel, then you have missed Mass.
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twopekinguys
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From what I have read on the ask the apologist portion of CAF, there is no “official” time when someone is considered late to Mass.
However, if the person(s) are habitually late, that is something the pastor should address with them directly.
My view of habitual may be different than someone elses. That is why the pastor should address it.
However, if the person(s) are habitually late, that is something the pastor should address with them directly.
My view of habitual may be different than someone elses. That is why the pastor should address it.
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SenorSalsa
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There is no official “you are now too late” line.
However if you have missed all of the readings, you probably should not receive, but may have fulfilled your obligation (especially if your being late was an extraordinary circumstance, and not laziness)
If you miss consecration, you probably have not fulfilled your obligation, and especially should not receive.
I once read an opinion that bare minimum to “attend mass” is from Consecration to the Priest’s communion. That’s about a 10 minute span. While technically speaking I can see it argued that that is the most important part of Mass, I would certainly feel guilty being there for only that long.
However if you have missed all of the readings, you probably should not receive, but may have fulfilled your obligation (especially if your being late was an extraordinary circumstance, and not laziness)
If you miss consecration, you probably have not fulfilled your obligation, and especially should not receive.
I once read an opinion that bare minimum to “attend mass” is from Consecration to the Priest’s communion. That’s about a 10 minute span. While technically speaking I can see it argued that that is the most important part of Mass, I would certainly feel guilty being there for only that long.
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ChadS
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These types of discussions about how late a person can be seems legalistic to me, like how little do I have to do to be considered Catholic. I know a guy that comes to church every Sunday and never misses mass, but he comes in right before the consecration and leaves immediately after he receives communion. For him church lasts a total of what, ten minutes, if even that?
How about the next time a person asks how late they can be we should tell them if they aren’t seated in the pew before the procession begins they are already too late.
Certainly it’s one thing to be late occasionally if the car wouldn’t start or you ran into traffic or like me you don’t realize how long it will take to clean the snow off the car. But, to try to time it down to how many readings you can miss or if you need to be seated before the Gospel is read or do you really need to catch all of the homily just seems to be asking for trouble.
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How about the next time a person asks how late they can be we should tell them if they aren’t seated in the pew before the procession begins they are already too late.
Certainly it’s one thing to be late occasionally if the car wouldn’t start or you ran into traffic or like me you don’t realize how long it will take to clean the snow off the car. But, to try to time it down to how many readings you can miss or if you need to be seated before the Gospel is read or do you really need to catch all of the homily just seems to be asking for trouble.
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Joe_Kelley
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My former pastor answered that when you go to bed Saturday night before you review the readings for the next day’s mass you are already late for mass. He was only half jesting. It does counter the idea of the Communion line as a fast food outlet.
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Carmel1
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Thanx for your responses… I certainly take my faith seriously enough to make sure we (my family and I) arrive on time for Mass… however it is said when examining your conscience we are asked Do you purposely arrive at Mass late? which suggests it is a sin if you do. mortal or venial thats not for me to decide for someone else,
Having said that I agree if your late for Mass at all your late period baring a good reason, like u said a flat tire or something.
I did take it upon myself this past week to charitably approach said person at the grocery store, and enlightened the facts about being late and they shouldn’t receive communion.
After Mass on Sunday the whole family verbally ganged up on me, I remained calm and told them I didn’t make the rules. They shouted back with having told the priest which he informed them they were quite safe to receive communion anyway.
As far as I’m concerned the priest should have instructed them properly, and said family will continue to arrive late for Mass guaranteed.
All in all, what I tried to do was educate a fellow parishioners.
Are we not our brothers keeper?
Having said that I agree if your late for Mass at all your late period baring a good reason, like u said a flat tire or something.
I did take it upon myself this past week to charitably approach said person at the grocery store, and enlightened the facts about being late and they shouldn’t receive communion.
After Mass on Sunday the whole family verbally ganged up on me, I remained calm and told them I didn’t make the rules. They shouted back with having told the priest which he informed them they were quite safe to receive communion anyway.
As far as I’m concerned the priest should have instructed them properly, and said family will continue to arrive late for Mass guaranteed.
All in all, what I tried to do was educate a fellow parishioners.
Are we not our brothers keeper?
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twopekinguys
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Here’s the thing about human nature…Thanx for your responses… I certainly take my faith seriously enough to make sure we (my family and I) arrive on time for Mass… however it is said when examining your conscience we are asked Do you purposely arrive at Mass late? which suggests it is a sin if you do. mortal or venial thats not for me to decide for someone else,
Having said that I agree if your late for Mass at all your late period baring a good reason, like u said a flat tire or something.
I did take it upon myself this past week to charitably approach said person at the grocery store, and enlightened the facts about being late and they shouldn’t receive communion.
After Mass on Sunday the whole family verbally ganged up on me, I remained calm and told them I didn’t make the rules. They shouted back with having told the priest which he informed them they were quite safe to receive communion anyway.
As far as I’m concerned the priest should have instructed them properly, and said family will continue to arrive late for Mass guaranteed.
All in all, what I tried to do was educate a fellow parishioners.
Are we not our brothers keeper?
No matter how well intentioned, or how polite you present something, the other party is going to view it as an attack. Especially if you’re not a member of the clergy.
That is the primary reason I suggested letting the pastor handle it.
For me personally, when it comes to the Mass, my attention is on the Mass, and not the entrances. During communion, my focus is on the Eucharist, and not who else is receiving communion.
As far as your priest’s reaction at the confrontation, I am sure he was more interested in diffusing a situation as quickly and quietly as possible, as opposed to taking sides.
Just my thoughts.
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