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ATraveller
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Apparently, there’s a new revised Book of Common Prayer out. Any thoughts on it? It seems each revision is controversial.
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ltwin
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Are you talking about the one issued by the Anglican Church in North America?
Here you go: http://bcp2019.anglicanmarriage.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/bcp2019.pdf
Here’s a “review” by an Episcopalian, A Response to ACNA’s Proposed Prayer Book 2019 – Covenant
Here you go: http://bcp2019.anglicanmarriage.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/bcp2019.pdf
Here’s a “review” by an Episcopalian, A Response to ACNA’s Proposed Prayer Book 2019 – Covenant
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ATraveller
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Yes. Thanks for those links.
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TomH1
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The Book of Common Prayer (BCP) is a name widely used throughout the Anglican Communion. That communion has 46 churches. Could you please be more specific about which of them has released a new edition of the BCP.there’s a new revised Book of Common Prayer out
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HopkinsReb
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As an ACNA member I think it’s fine. Everyone can find something to complain about, but with a coalition as broad as Anglicanism you’re not going to please everyone. I’d prefer higher language, but since my private devotional life is out of St Augustine’s Prayer Book and not the BCP, that doesn’t bother me much.
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GKMotley
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How you stand on them Articles?
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ltwin
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As clarified above, the OP is talking about the BCP 2019 issued by the Anglican Church in North America.The Book of Common Prayer (BCP) is a name widely used throughout the Anglican Communion. That communion has 46 churches. Could you please be more specific about which of them has released a new edition of the BCP.
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GKMotley
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In this case, none of them. It’s from the Anglican Church in North America. Not in the Communion, though in communion with some Communion Churches.
Go, Anglicans!
Go, Anglicans!
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HopkinsReb
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Oh, as I recall, some 60%-70%. Some of them I accept one claim and reject another.
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GKMotley
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Not an unusual take on them.
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ATraveller
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From the livingchurch link:
This might be of interest to some:
Could anyone elaborate on this?Like the 1979 rite, this proposed rite requires baptism be included in the context of Holy Communion. It does not allow for the historic Anglican position of baptism following the second lesson at Morning or Evening Prayer.
This might be of interest to some:
Adds an emphasis on chrism that is not present in 1979 or the historic prayer book tradition, but is drawn from historic Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic precedents.
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TomH1
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Indeed, but the OP’s response to your speculation must have been posted concurrently with mine. It was not there when I decided to post. He must have got his post in milliseconds prior to me. Otherwise, I would not have posed my question.
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TomH1
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I do admit to not letting my thoughts stray from the Anglican Communion. I had not considered the whole gamut of ‘continuing Anglican churches’.
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GKMotley
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S’ok. We are mostly shy and retiring entities, little seen in the spotlight.
Orthodox, though. As much as any generalization might be made of the Anglican breed.
Orthodox, though. As much as any generalization might be made of the Anglican breed.
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PickyPicky
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You sound like a rare and endangered species, fodder for an Attenborough documentary. Not endangered, I trust.We are mostly shy and retiring entities, little seen in the spotlight
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PickyPicky
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I’m quite the wrong person to comment on this …Could anyone elaborate on this?
So I will!
But all I can add is that my understanding is that in the Church of England, at least, it is usual for baptism to take place in a eucharistic service, but quite possible for it to take place in Morning Prayer. Not much help, but the best I can do.
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prayerrider
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Continuing on life support, for some.
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prayerrider
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ACA, APA, APCK, etc.? More like critically endangered.
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Symphorian
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The position of the administration of Baptism after the last lesson at MP or EP is prescribed by the rubrics of the BCP. (1662 English, proposed 1928 English and 1928 American BCP’s.)
Historically, in many CofE churches, the main Sunday services would’ve been MP and EP. Holy Communion might’ve been celebrated monthly. Where HC was celebrated weekly it would’ve been held as an early morning service and MP would’ve remained the main morning service that most people attended. It was the Parish Communion Movement in the mid 20th century that made the Eucharist the central act of Sunday worship in the CofE.
In the CofE it’s not unheard of for babies to be baptised in church on Sunday but not at one of the main services. In effect, it becomes a semi private affair for parents, Godparents, family and friends. In my parish most baptisms of babies tend to be done this way. It’s desirable of course in many ways for baptism to be administered within one of the main services.
Historically, in many CofE churches, the main Sunday services would’ve been MP and EP. Holy Communion might’ve been celebrated monthly. Where HC was celebrated weekly it would’ve been held as an early morning service and MP would’ve remained the main morning service that most people attended. It was the Parish Communion Movement in the mid 20th century that made the Eucharist the central act of Sunday worship in the CofE.
In the CofE it’s not unheard of for babies to be baptised in church on Sunday but not at one of the main services. In effect, it becomes a semi private affair for parents, Godparents, family and friends. In my parish most baptisms of babies tend to be done this way. It’s desirable of course in many ways for baptism to be administered within one of the main services.
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GKMotley
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I’ve always thought so.
But things are a little better, of late.
Not that I’m optimistic, mind.
But things are a little better, of late.
Not that I’m optimistic, mind.
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