Latin - Divine Office ? [HELP!]

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I’ve been searching and searching with little luck to find the Divine Office breviary online [WITH AUDIO] in Latin. All I can find is * in English (which right now I make do with). I also found divinumofficium.com/ which only has it written out…

The Latin books are SO expensive! (Plus if I join the Carmelites, they’ll provide me with a book to correspond with theirs…) For now, I like to listen [and pray along] with the Divine Office (especially when I’m getting ready in the morning or on the bus ride to Daily Mass) but I don’t always have the time to sit & read it. [Otherwise I’d just use my English book!]. Does anybody know of any online/streaming/ downloadable [LATIN] Office podcasts or webpages?

I think I (might potentially) have found one that does Live Streaming but the webpage for the monastery is in French & I’m pretty sure our time zones are like 5 hours apart [considering the fact that the Office already has given hours, I don’t want to use them incorrectly, it would defeat the entire purpose!] … I’m not even sure if I’ve understood the cite correctly, as I said, it is in French.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE! If you know of any webpages that could help me- I’d LOVE to know!*
 
I’m most interested in this query. I’m also looking for the Divine Office online. I’ve bought the book itself but find it a little confusing.
It would be great if we had more parish groups teaching us to use the Breviary.
 
I’ve just rediscovered this: breviary.mobi/register.php

There is a small subscription fee, but at $2.50 per month, it’s much more affordable than the books themselves! I don’t think there’s audio though. 😦
 
Are you wanting to pray according to the 1961 rubrics, or the LotH rubrics?

The only website that has the full 1961 Roman Office online is divinumofficium.com, but, as you noted there is no audio.

The Benedictine Monks of Norcia post audio of Lauds and Vespers from their monastery daily. They do not use the Roman Office though; they use the Monastic Breviary.

If you prefer the LotH, Vatican Radio offers sung Lauds, Vespers, and Compline as a podcast/MP3 download: radiovaticana.org/en1/on_demand.asp?gr=ltg

ETA: Online text of the Liturgia horarum (Latin LotH): almudi.org/portals/0/docs/breviario/fuentes/breviario.html
 
You might try Breviary.net There is no audio. But the site is easy to use. The Latin is on one side and the English opposite it. There is no “turning” back and forth. Everything is in order for each day and each office. The Confraternity of Saints Peter and Paul provide this service.
 
Thank you everybody for taking the time to respond and send me all of your wonderful links.

Unfortunately, they are not what I was looking for however, they are a vast improvement on what I was previously using… perhaps I’ll just alternate Latin & English on different days of the week (English being my running-out-the-door days). . . But now we all know- there’s an open market for anyone that wants to podcast the Latin Breviary.
 
IesumPerMariam said:
Are you wanting to pray according to the 1961 rubrics, or the LotH rubrics?
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I was not aware that there was a difference. Right now I am using the English “Christian Prayers” (Office of Hours for Lay). I’ve been trying to learn my Latin rosary for awhile & decided (once I master the Credo… which still makes me stumble) I’d like to transition my other prayers to Latin as well…

One of my little brothers is applying to the FSSP seminary & I thought he might appreciate it as well (I think right now he does a daily rosary & (little) Office of the Blessed Virgin(?). I’m 1 of 8 children & sometimes I just can’t keep everyone’s devotions straight but I know that he in particular likes the Divine Office)… Are the rubrics very different from each other? I’ve been using the English (for Lay) so the rubrics are all a bit more complex to me (hence the wanting a website to do the confusing parts for me… plus we always attended English Mass growing up & my Latin is only so-so.)

Thank you very much- I will be looking into this.
 
I’ve thought about making a video doing all the Hours of the office (traditional breviary) since many don’t know the rubrics, which parts to say when, or how to pronounce the words. Hmmm. I am inspired!

God Bless OP there are some good suggestions here.
 
Basilios said:
I’ve thought about making a video doing all the Hours of the office (traditional breviary) since many don’t know the rubrics, which parts to say when, or how to pronounce the words. Hmmm. I am inspired!

God Bless OP there are some good suggestions here.
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The 1962 breviary is not “traditional”, it only dates back to 1910. The true traditional breviary is the Monastic Breviary which goes back 1500 years or so, give or take a year.
 
OraLabora said:
The 1962 breviary is not “traditional”, it only dates back to 1910. The true traditional breviary is the Monastic Breviary which goes back 1500 years or so, give or take a year.
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:rolleyes: Now now, there’s no need to bait by being a pedant. You know full well what I mean. Don’t like the terms I use - the terms everybody uses? Tough. PM me about it. Don’t hijack the thread because you’ve got an axe to grind against traddies or because you want to show off your knowledge. Knowledge which, as you well know, is so widely available and known that it’s not worth jumping on the high-horse about. Yes, you’re an oblate. Woo-hoo. Good for you mate, I really mean that, but it doesn’t give you the right of popping into a thread only to be pedantically contradicting someone because you feel the word I used wasn’t the word you would use. Want me to start doing the same? It would never end. We can live in peace with a few disagreements or look for opportunities to contradict and be a thorn in each other’s side. You know full well your post was off topic and only there to try make the traddy know who is boss.

May God make you a saint.
 
Basilios said:
:rolleyes: Now now, there’s no need to bait by being a pedant. You know full well what I mean. Don’t like the terms I use - the terms everybody uses? Tough. PM me about it. Don’t hijack the thread because you’ve got an axe to grind against traddies or because you want to show off your knowledge. Knowledge which, as you well know, is so widely available and known that it’s not worth jumping on the high-horse about. Yes, you’re an oblate. Woo-hoo. Good for you mate, I really mean that, but it doesn’t give you the right of popping into a thread only to be pedantically contradicting someone because you feel the word I used wasn’t the word you would use. Want me to start doing the same? It would never end. We can live in peace with a few disagreements or look for opportunities to contradict and be a thorn in each other’s side. You know full well your post was off topic and only there to try make the traddy know who is boss.

May God make you a saint.
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Wow – rude much? Pointing out a fact does not = “hijacking” a thread. Actually, your post is more of a hijacking – totally off the OP’s topic.
Don’t like the terms OraLabora uses? Take your own advice and PM.
 
agnes_therese said:
Wow – rude much? Pointing out a fact does not = “hijacking” a thread. Actually, your post is more of a hijacking – totally off the OP’s topic.
Don’t like the terms OraLabora uses? Take your own advice and PM.
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Like with like. He was rude. I was rude. Totally off the OP’s topic to tell him I was thinking about making a video to help people in his situation and that I might actually do it thanks to his post? Yeah that’s off-topic alright.

I don’t care what terms he uses. If you remember correctly, he was the one who stormed in to enforce his language on me, not the other way around.

And here we go with another off-topic post and more traddy bashing.
 
Basilios said:
Like with like. He was rude. I was rude. Totally off the OP’s topic to tell him I was thinking about making a video to help people in his situation and that I might actually do it thanks to his post? Yeah that’s off-topic alright.

I don’t care what terms he uses. If you remember correctly, he was the one who stormed in to enforce his language on me, not the other way around.

And here we go with another off-topic post and more traddy bashing.
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I pointed out a fact with no emotion or rudeness for the benefit of those coming to learn who may be misled by imprecise terminology. You seem a little touchy, on the basis of two posts you’ve accused me of being “aggressively anti-traddy”.

Please read the stickies pertaining to this forum. It is intended to discuss all traditions of the church, not just a narrow definition of “traditionalist”. Also please ratchet down the name-calling a wee bit. It’s against forum rules.
 
I think the monastery you were referring to, with the time-zone problem, is Le Barroux in France. There is another site where the streams are made available for download: barrouxchant.com/
 
I went on a a course on how to serve alter the Low mass and we prayed chanted Compline and I found it so beautiful that I want to start pray divine office in Latin. I have herd the English divine office done but I think the divine office in Latin is more beautiful
 
OraLabora said:
The 1962 breviary is not “traditional”, it only dates back to 1910.
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I couldn’t disagree more. The major change brought about by St. Pius X in 1910 was the reform of the psalter schema, and even then it remained much closer to the 6th century Benedictine schema than the post-Vatican-II 4-week Liturgy of the Hours. Otherwise, the breviary remained mostly unchanged since the council of Trent.
 
Nesrad said:
I couldn’t disagree more. The major change brought about by St. Pius X in 1910 was the reform of the psalter schema, and even then it remained much closer to the 6th century Benedictine schema than the post-Vatican-II 4-week Liturgy of the Hours. Otherwise, the breviary remained mostly unchanged since the council of Trent.
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I couldn’t disagree more. The psalmody is really the heart of the Divine Office. The 1910 schema departed fairly radically from tradition: the traditional Lauds psalms 148-149-150 that ended the psalmody of Lauds every day was broken up; psalm 4, 90 and 133 were no longer used daily at Compline, and the psalms themselves were split into sections that wreaked havoc with the antiphonary. In many ways the changes of 1910 set precedents for the changes of the LOTH. On the other hand, the LOTH retains some elements from the monastic tradition as well: semi-continuous reading of psalms in numerical order; the option to use the Gradual Psalms at the minor hours, and the option to use psalm 4, 90 and 133 every day; the psalms of the last week of Vespers of the 4-week cycle are also entirely from the monastic Office; psalm 109 finds its traditional place at Sunday Vespers, and psalm 50 is appropriately repeated, if not daily like in the monastic tradition, at least at Lauds every Friday, the penitential day.

On the other hand the 1910 schema has significant departure from the monastic cursus especially for the minor hours, Compline, Prime and Matins. St Benedict essentially ordered the psalms in numerical order with some exceptions to place psalms that were appropriate for certain times of the day, in their appropriate place; the LOTH attempts to reproduce this at least in part. He also designed the minor hours to be short using three Gradual psalms, so they could be recited from memory while working in the fields (minor hours), or in the dark before retiring (Compline). None of this was retained in the 1910 office. Yet the 1970 LOTH allows these options for at least two of the minor hours, and for Compline.

There is also, in the LOTH, an excellent selection of readings for the OOR, which can be, of course, used as Matins; there are even vigil canticles for the traditional “third nocturne” on Sundays and feasts.

Of course there are major innovations in the LOTH, some of which I find questionable, such as the NT canticle at Vespers. They are too syncopated to chant properly though there are Gregorian antiphons for them now; I would have preferred to see more psalms and perhaps a two-week instead of 4-week schema; sometimes if there’s a feast, it can be 8 weeks before a psalm comes around again.

But overall I think the LOTH is a good compromise; and the 1910 Office, is in fact as radical a departure from tradition as the LOTH was; in fact the LOTH brings some monastic traditions back, at least optionally, that were lost in 1910.
 
Nesrad, you took the words right out of my mouth. [barrouxchant.com[

I use this site every day. It has the advantage of having the text in both latin and english.

don’t get confused by the appearance of the date at the top of the page. By clicking on the arrow you can advance to the correct date if you save the site in “favorites”. If not just go to the website directly. Periodically the texts don’t match what the Monks are singing but I ujst pray right along anyway.

I put on my ear phones and relax. :cool:]()](http://barrouxchant.com)
 
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