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traditional_1
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Is it possible for the Latin Mass to be done with no altar boys? How does that work?
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Cluny
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From what I’ve read in books of ceremonies, this would be quite likely to happen in a women’s community.
In such a case, the priest would serve himself, but there would still need to be someone outside the altar rail to make the responses.
In such a case, the priest would serve himself, but there would still need to be someone outside the altar rail to make the responses.
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JRKH
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If by Latin Mass you mean the EF or TLM mass, it really isn’t that difficult. The Missal is already on the Altar unlike in the OF where the server carries it, so the Priest has easy acccess to this. The Cruets for the Water, wine and washing can be placed on the end of the Altar and the priest simply take them from there.Is it possible for the Latin Mass to be done with no altar boys? How does that work?
Of course in my experience, assuming there are men in the congregation, this would never occur. I even recall seeing my Grandfather serve mass once because the regular servers didn’t show up.
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AJV
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There are 4 broad scenarios
(1) that there is someone who knows the replies but cannot serve
(2) there are others present who do not know how to serve or the responses
(3) there is someone who knows to serve but not the replies
(4) there is no one except the priest
For (1), (2) and (4) the celebrant moves the missal himself - without, however, observing the server’s customary genuflections. The cruets and lavabo bowl (practically, filled with water) are kept at the Epistle side of the altar. For the ablutions, there are two possibilities. The one that was favoured by the Italian rubricists was pouring the water and wine over the canonical fingers of the left hand, and then dipping the canonical fingers of the right hand into the chalice. It was also possible to pour water and wine on fingers of the right hand, after the left.
For (2) - (4), the priest recites the Confiteor once, omits “vobis/vos fratres” and says “Misereatur nostri” . As the missal indicates, for the Orate fratres, he says “de manibus meis”.
As mentioned earlier, if a woman was making the responses, it would have to be done from outside the altar rail. Several rubricists favor the opinion that a man who does not know how to serve should also make the responses from outside the sanctuary.
(1) that there is someone who knows the replies but cannot serve
(2) there are others present who do not know how to serve or the responses
(3) there is someone who knows to serve but not the replies
(4) there is no one except the priest
For (1), (2) and (4) the celebrant moves the missal himself - without, however, observing the server’s customary genuflections. The cruets and lavabo bowl (practically, filled with water) are kept at the Epistle side of the altar. For the ablutions, there are two possibilities. The one that was favoured by the Italian rubricists was pouring the water and wine over the canonical fingers of the left hand, and then dipping the canonical fingers of the right hand into the chalice. It was also possible to pour water and wine on fingers of the right hand, after the left.
For (2) - (4), the priest recites the Confiteor once, omits “vobis/vos fratres” and says “Misereatur nostri” . As the missal indicates, for the Orate fratres, he says “de manibus meis”.
As mentioned earlier, if a woman was making the responses, it would have to be done from outside the altar rail. Several rubricists favor the opinion that a man who does not know how to serve should also make the responses from outside the sanctuary.
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