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I also suggest the Handbook of Prayers. It sells for $12 or $13.
Lol at impersonal , actually I took that the wrong way the first couple of times as I thought that people were cold and unfriendly. Buy I’ve come to realize that everyone is so focused on the solemnity of the spirit of God that they don’t get distracted nor worry about everyone around them as we may often do in the Ordinary Form.They’re:
Solemn;
Quiet;
Have beautiful prayers;
Impersonal;
Iconic;
With chant: heavenly.
It’s still a NO.Rather than start a new thread, I have a question: I’m away from home and have been attending a Mass that is said in English but the Gloria, Kyrie, Sanctus and Agnus Dei are said in Latin (Missa de Angelis/Missa VIII which is BEAUTIFUL!). Is there a name for this kind of Mass? It isn’t TLM but it is just Novus Ordo with a little Latin?
Thanks!!!
It is about the sacrifice of the Mass and the Novo Ordo isn’t worth considering after this. I also found the priest facing the sun with his back to the parishioners gave the Mass a mystery and reverence that is lacking in my lifetime experience of Mass. I was in Manchester in England and it was a Jesuit priest who gave a sermon in English mid way through that was welcome; it was a chance to listen to his words before the mass resumed.Buy I’ve come to realize that everyone is so focused on the solemnity of the spirit of God that they don’t get distracted nor worry about everyone around them as we may often do in the Ordinary Form.
I love the reverential atmosphere, and the music and incense at a solemn Mass makes me feel like I’m in Heaven on earth.
It sounds like it! Once you’ve experienced it - Latin Mass. It has to beIt isn’t TLM but it is just Novus Ordo with a little Latin?
Thanks!!!
You’re spot on! &Congratulations! A very holy seminarian I used to know (who introduced me & others in our parish to the Traditional Latin Mass) advised first-timers like yourself not to rely too much on printed missals. **Just let the beauty of the ritual penetrate your soul & your senses. Have an interior dialogue with Our Lord. In the silence of the Mass, He will speak to you.
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There’ll be plenty of time later on to fiddle with Latin/English missals. (Angelus Press has a particularly good reprint of the 1962 Missal; also Baronius Press. You can also pick up earlier editions (St. Andrew, Fr. Lasance, St. Joseph missals) on ebay. I believe there’s a thread on this site with a lively discussion of different missal types.
I experienced it and at the same time realised that following God is not meant to be comfortable. There was an altar in the chapel dedicated to John Henry Newman that prepared me for the Mass. The real difference between being a real Catholic and following the path of temporal attachment is that we admit life is hard but try and love one another by following the rules laid down by Moses and our God and saviour Jesus Christ. It’s also knowing that we can never be perfect but to try our hardest is what’s needed. I think reading about Henry Newman’s life made this apparent but the Mass itself made me think deeply whereas Novo Ordo involves people coming in late, leaving early, dressing immodestly and let their kids play with toys in the pews.If you will be at a solemn high mass then the music will be wonderful. A difference is that you may be surprised at how little you hear spoken at this mass.I find it helpful to read along with the mass and join my prayers with those of our priest.
So many more parts of the spoken mass are audible at the low mass that it can be useful to sit up towards the front to better hear the Latin. The language training becomes a welcome side benefit.
I was quickly lost my first few times assisting at the E.F but found the mass kept calling me back. I hope you find it to be every bit as wonderful as I have found it to be. May God bless you.
I think your negative comments about the “Novus Ordo” Mass are sad.It is about the sacrifice of the Mass and the Novo Ordo isn’t worth considering after this. I also found the priest facing the sun with his back to the parishioners gave the Mass a mystery and reverence that is lacking in my lifetime experience of Mass. I was in Manchester in England and it was a Jesuit priest who gave a sermon in English mid way through that was welcome; it was a chance to listen to his words before the mass resumed.
It sounds like it! Once you’ve experienced it - Latin Mass. It has to be
You’re spot on! &
Thanks for the tip btw
I experienced it and at the same time realised that following God is not meant to be comfortable. There was an altar in the chapel dedicated to John Henry Newman that prepared me for the Mass. The real difference between being a real Catholic and following the path of temporal attachment is that we admit life is hard but try and love one another by following the rules laid down by Moses and our God and saviour Jesus Christ. It’s also knowing that we can never be perfect but to try our hardest is what’s needed. I think reading about Henry Newman’s life made this apparent but the Mass itself made me think deeply whereas Novo Ordo involves people coming in late, leaving early, dressing immodestly and let their kids play with toys in the pews.
I will be back for Latin Mass on Sunday.
I couldn’t agree more… I am more of a regular attendee of a TLM. When I first began going to the TLM, I brought my missal with me and tried to follow along all the time. I found it to be more distracting doing that than if I just set the missal on the pew and only picked it up for a few prayers. It’s a very beautiful Mass.not to rely too much on printed missals. Just let the beauty of the ritual penetrate your soul & your senses. Have an interior dialogue with Our Lord. In the silence of the Mass, He will speak to you.
He attends the Latin Mass and is posting in a thread about the Latin Mass. Why would you expect him to think that the NO being the OF is a positive?I think your negative comments about the “Novus Ordo” Mass are sad.
“the Novo Ordo isn’t worth considering after this…”
You’re majoring on the negatives, mainly failures of the parishioners, not the failures of the Mass itself.
You’re failing to see all the positives, one of which is that our Holy Mother Church has declared that the “Novus Ordo” Mass is the Ordinary Form of the Mass. I don’t know about anyone else reading this forum, but I love the MASS, including the OF.
Your opinion is subjective which has created the mess we’re in. I didn’t really say that it wasn’t a valid Mass. I did say the LM conveys sacrifice and the mysticism of the church. The Novo Ordo is more grounded aside from the main part of the mass, i.e. the Eucharist. It is the fault of the people who have not defended our faith enough mate. That’s my opinionI think your negative comments about the “Novus Ordo” Mass are sad.
“the Novo Ordo isn’t worth considering after this…”
You’re majoring on the negatives, mainly failures of the parishioners, not the failures of the Mass itself.
You’re failing to see all the positives, one of which is that our Holy Mother Church has declared that the “Novus Ordo” Mass is the Ordinary Form of the Mass. I don’t know about anyone else reading this forum, but I love the MASS, including the OF.
St. Anne’s is wonderful! Fr. Masutti and Fr. Gismondi are fantastic priests. FYI, St. Margaret’s in Oceanside has the TLM every Sunday at 6PM and Fr. Wallace there is a fantastic priest as well.Those of you who are able to travel 30 min to 1 hr each way to attend a LM are lucky. I have to travel 3 hrs each way to attend one. I attended my first LM in April and I fell in love with it. I will be going to a Retreat that ends on Saturday next week in Tucson. Since I will be in Tucson, I am planning on staying an extra night to attend a LM here:
institute-christ-king.org/tucson/ I cannot miss out on that opportunity. I will be also going to a vocational retreat late September in Oceanside, California and plan on going to an FSSP parish in San Diego, St. Anne’s. I cant wait![]()
Yes, I got a chance to talk to Fr. Masutti after the Missa Cantata and I agree with you.St. Anne’s is wonderful! Fr. Masutti and Fr. Gismondi are fantastic priests. FYI, St. Margaret’s in Oceanside has the TLM every Sunday at 6PM and Fr. Wallace there is a fantastic priest as well.
Cat didn’t say you said the OF was invalid. He said what he said.Your opinion is subjective which has created the mess we’re in. I didn’t really say that it wasn’t a valid Mass. I did say the LM conveys sacrifice and the mysticism of the church. The Novo Ordo is more grounded aside from the main part of the mass, i.e. the Eucharist. It is the fault of the people who have not defended our faith enough mate. That’s my opinion
Cat responded with this:“the Novo Ordo isn’t worth considering after this…”
You’re majoring on the negatives, mainly failures of the parishioners, not the failures of the Mass itself.
Why can’t we just have respect for the Mass rather than being negative, or say nothing about it?You’re failing to see all the positives, one of which is that our Holy Mother Church has declared that the “Novus Ordo” Mass is the Ordinary Form of the Mass. I don’t know about anyone else reading this forum, but I love the MASS, including the OF.
Why did you weigh in with your opinion on a debate between other posters? Cat was being quite aggressive and I know that much. I wasn’t being offensive and I see the Latin Mass as being a wholly spiritual experience that brings the Mass to me. Please, respectfully, I recommend you stay out of other people’s debate because it creates tensionCat didn’t say you said the OF was invalid. He said what he said.
You said this:
Cat responded with this:
Why can’t we just have respect for the Mass rather than being negative, or say nothing about it?