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Has anyone here been to a Latin NO? I have seen them on EWTN and think they are very good. I wish I could find one. There is no Tridentine mass around me and I think I might prefere the Latin NO anyway
 
There is no Tridentine mass around me and I think I might prefere the Latin NO anyway
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In all honesty, you probably wouldn’t notice the differences. However, if you teach yourself about the Tridentine Mass, the differences will be striking. If you are interested in a Latin Mass, the Tridentine Mass is the way to go. Many of the symbolism and prayers of the Tridentine Mass originate from the first century.

I suggest you contact Ecclesia Dei and see if there are any local Masses available.
 
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Has anyone here been to a Latin NO? I have seen them on EWTN and think they are very good. I wish I could find one. There is no Tridentine mass around me and I think I might prefere the Latin NO anyway
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I grew up (literally from birth to 20-something) attending the OF in Latin. I share your preference :D. A chanted OF is the ultimate prayer.

As to where, it depends where you live. It’s easier to find one in a large city. I’m fortunate that I’ve always lived near a parish that offers a Latin NO, but I am willing to travel in order to attend one.

If you post/PM where you are I may be able to help…
 
Dempsey1919 said:
In all honesty, you probably wouldn’t notice the differences.
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Dempsey, I respectfully, but entirely disagree.

Whether or not it’s the liturgical ideal, most TLMs I’ve attended (and I’ve attended a fairly wide range from weekday Low Mass to Sunday High Mass to Sunday dialogue High Mass to high holy day (Christmas) sung High Mass) are offered in a way strikingly different to the chanted Pauline Mass I attended (i.e. (giving only standard differences here) with the exception of the dialogue Mass, no vocal participation permitted on the part of the congregation; choir singing over priest’s prayer thus forcing you to decide whether to pray the ordinary with the choir or try to keep up the priest, etc.)

Further, if you know a little Latin and/or are already familiar with the prayers of the Mass you will notice differences in the prayers.
 
I attended the OF in Latin and the EF. I love Latin much better then vernacular, but that is based only on personal likes and dislikes and not on liturgical/theological basis. I think that in the OF only the readings and the homily should be in English.
I disagree with Dempsey1929, you would immediately notice a ton of differences even if both Masses are in Latin. Right now I prefer the OF because the EF that I attend, even if it is celebrated by a great priest, is almost impossible to hear because of his age.
 
TLM is obviously has theological striking differences with the NO regardless of its language(NO)…
 
Cristiano said:
I think that in the OF only the readings and the homily should be in English.
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Amen! And chanted Masses too, please… It’d be nice if there could be one Latin OF in every city… not likely, I know, but a girl can dream…
 
peregrinator_it said:
Amen! And chanted Masses too please… It’d be nice if there could be one Latin OF in every city… not likely, I know, but a girl can dream…
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Didn’t Cardinal Arinze recently (maybe pre Summorum Pontificum) say that there should be one in every large parish? I seem to remember something along those lines.

James
 
I know there are no TLM’s in my diocese. I will contact the diocese to ask if there are Latin NO’s.
 
piojunbabia said:
TLM is obviously has theological striking differences with the NO regardless of its language(NO)…
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Theologically, they are both the perfect sacrifice. TLM appeals more to those who need the added boost from emotional feeling to help them pray.
 
Cristiano said:
I disagree with Dempsey1929, you would immediately notice a ton of differences even if both Masses are in Latin. Right now I prefer the OF because the EF that I attend, even if it is celebrated by a great priest, is almost impossible to hear because of his age.
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Yeah, this is an issue. Cristiano, you and I attend the same TLM (at St. Mary’s, correct?) I know theoretically it shouldn’t make much of a difference, but it did personally for me. I attended the TLM 4 times and my reaction was “eh”…I didn’t quite understand what all the fuss was about. The fifth time, my dad and I used those little hearing aids that they’ve started passing around and for the first time I could hear what was being said. That-- and reading outlines of the TLM here at CAF-- made all the difference; I was a convert from that day on. I guess it was the final piece of the puzzle falling into place. I realized what was happening at every part. This priest in particular gives the best sermons. Only you might not ever know since you can’t hear them.

If you can’t get ahold of a hearing aid thingamajig, I’ve also noticed that if you stand in the back, in the cry room/narthex area, the sound system filters directly back there and you can hear Father’s sermon perfectly. 🙂
 
ac claire, the one time I’ve gone to the EF was at that very same place, and I was put off by that exact problem and never went back. After reading about the EF more though, I think I’m ready to go back and try again, so I’ll be on the lookout for those hearing aids.

And to the OP and Peregrinator, I do agree that an OF in Latin would be great, though unfortunately they’re exceedingly rare. Hopefully part of the enrichment of the OF by the EF that Pope Benedict predicted will be more OF Masses in latin.
 
James0235 said:
Didn’t Cardinal Arinze recently (maybe pre Summorum Pontificum) say that there should be one in every large parish? I seem to remember something along those lines.
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He suggested that larger parishes offer Mass in Latin at least once a week and that smaller, rural parishes offer it at least once a month. Homilies, he said, should always be in the vernacular.
*(Catholic New Agency)

*James
 
James0235 said:
Didn’t Cardinal Arinze recently (maybe pre Summorum Pontificum) say that there should be one in every large parish? I seem to remember something along those lines.
James
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I think it was Cardinal Hoyos.
 
James0235 said:
He suggested that larger parishes offer Mass in Latin at least once a week and that smaller, rural parishes offer it at least once a month. Homilies, he said, should always be in the vernacular.
(Catholic New Agency)

James
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Wow. I never knew that.

@ProVobis: the article says it was Arinze.
 
NTOT said:
Theologically, they are both the perfect sacrifice. TLM appeals more to those who need the added boost from emotional feeling to help them pray.
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The essence of sacrifice in the Novus Ordo is diminished, infact V2 has emphasized it as a commemorial of the last supper, thus NO has become more on a Eucharistic Meal rather than a sacrifice. If you try to study well the history of both masses, the TLM is truly what it is. On the other hand, NO, is patterned to a Protestant Liturgy where no protestant is offended nor have any criticism of negative reaction towards our NO Mass. OBVIOUSLY they are not the same and language has nothing to do about it.

For more information about it, try to read this, this is a critical study about the Mass:

fisheaters.com/ottavianiintervention.html
 
NTOT said:
Theologically, they are both the perfect sacrifice. TLM appeals more to those who need the added boost from emotional feeling to help them pray.
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And I think EF devotees would posit the exact opposite, i.e. OF devotees needing the emotional boost. It’s kind of how you look at it.
 
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