Latin of EF

[dcana]

Hello, all. I’m just getting into the “Latin” thing and I’ve noticed some differences between the text for the Mass and the text of the Vulgate. The first instance of this I found was “Quasimodo Sunday,” which is also called “Low Sunday.” I read that “quasimodo” is the first word (two words, actually) of the Introit of the Mass, which is taken from 1 Pet 2:2. According to all the versions of the Vulgate I’ve seen, 1 Pet 2:2 begins: “Sicut modo geniti infantes” not “Quasi modo geniti infantes.” To give another example, the Introit for last Sunday, from Is 48:20, is “Vocem jucunditatis annuntiate, et audiatur, alleluja: annuntiate usque ad extremum terræ: liberavit Dominus populum suum,” but the Clementine Vulgate (taken from vulsearch.sourceforge.net/html/Is.html) has “in voce exsultationis annuntiate: auditum facite hoc, et efferte illud usque ad extrema terræ. Dicite: Redemit Dominus servum suum Jacob.”

Why the differences? Are the texts used at Mass merely paraphrases of the Biblical texts?

God’s Blessings

 

[Cristiano]

Hello, all. I’m just getting into the “Latin” thing and I’ve noticed some differences between the text for the Mass and the text of the Vulgate. The first instance of this I found was “Quasimodo Sunday,” which is also called “Low Sunday.” I read that “quasimodo” is the first word (two words, actually) of the Introit of the Mass, which is taken from 1 Pet 2:2. According to all the versions of the Vulgate I’ve seen, 1 Pet 2:2 begins: “Sicut modo geniti infantes” not “Quasi modo geniti infantes.” To give another example, the Introit for last Sunday, from Is 48:20, is “Vocem jucunditatis annuntiate, et audiatur, alleluja: annuntiate usque ad extremum terræ: liberavit Dominus populum suum,” but the Clementine Vulgate (taken from vulsearch.sourceforge.net/html/Is.html) has “in voce exsultationis annuntiate: auditum facite hoc, et efferte illud usque ad extrema terræ. Dicite: Redemit Dominus servum suum Jacob.”

Why the differences? Are the texts used at Mass merely paraphrases of the Biblical texts?

God’s Blessings

I would say that in the first case the two words have the same meaning in this context, and that is simply a slight difference in translation an not paraphrasing.

In the second example the first part is only translation. In the second part I think that it is an adaptation because of the Theology. In Is 48:20 we are still the the OT and people had to announce God’s redemption of Jacob. However, now during Mass we are in the NT time and we have to announce the God has redeemed His people (through Christ).

 

[Will_S]

Biblical texts in the traditional Mass are independent translations and are not taken from the Vulgate as far as I know. In some cases, the Latin text of the Mass may well precede the Vulgate text.

 

[ProVobis]

Hello, all. I’m just getting into the “Latin” thing and I’ve noticed some differences between the text for the Mass and the text of the Vulgate. The first instance of this I found was “Quasimodo Sunday,” which is also called “Low Sunday.” I read that “quasimodo” is the first word (two words, actually) of the Introit of the Mass, which is taken from 1 Pet 2:2. According to all the versions of the Vulgate I’ve seen, 1 Pet 2:2 begins: “Sicut modo geniti infantes” not “Quasi modo geniti infantes.” …
Why the differences? Are the texts used at Mass merely paraphrases of the Biblical texts?

Fr Z explains it here (sort of): wdtprs.com/blog/2011/04/wdtprs-mercy-sunday-low-sunday-quasimodo-sunday/

 

[Mark1970]

The other version of the Latin referred to by Father Z is sometimes known as the Itala vetus, a version of the Latin Bible pre-dating St Jerome’s Vulgate. Some of the EF’s Introits, etc., are so old that they pre-date the Vulgate.

 

[abermingham4]

God bless all. Just curious what the proper translation for "No mercy for the wicked " would be? Thanks.