Latin rite showing up at eastern rite?

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I was just wondering how a **latin rite Catholic with no ethnic connection to an eastern rite **would be received at an eastern rite church, such as a maronite one? Would it be frowned upon? My main reasoning behind attending would be curiosity and also because I believe it is more traditional than the OF.
 
notredame_999 said:
I was just wondering how a typical latin rite white guy like myself would be received at an eastern rite church, such as a maronite one? Would it be frowned upon? My main reasoning behind attending would be curiosity and also because I believe it is more traditional than the OF.
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Do you perhaps want to rephrase the beginning of that?
 
notredame_999 said:
I was just wondering how a **latin rite Catholic with no ethnic connection to an eastern rite **would be received at an eastern rite church, such as a maronite one? Would it be frowned upon? My main reasoning behind attending would be curiosity and also because I believe it is more traditional than the OF.
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Any member of one Church sui juris is welcome to assist at Mass (aka Divine Liturgy, depending on the Particular Church) and partake of the Eucharist in any other. It’s not unusual for there to be Latin Rite visitors, and many Eastern and Oriental churches have a steady flow of them.
 
notredame_999 said:
I was just wondering how a **latin rite Catholic with no ethnic connection to an eastern rite **would be received at an eastern rite church, such as a maronite one? Would it be frowned upon? My main reasoning behind attending would be curiosity and also because I believe it is more traditional than the OF.
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It would not be frowned upon. This weekend I went to the Melkite Church and 4 people introduced themselves to me. There are people at the Latin rite Church where I go to daily Mass (I have been going there fore 2 years) that I see EVERY day that will stare a hole through me when I say hello to them.

And by the way it is even more traditional than the EF. 🍿
 
Tradycja said:
It would not be frowned upon. This weekend I went to the Melkite Church and 4 people introduced themselves to me. There are people at the Latin rite Church where I go to daily Mass (I have been going there fore 2 years) that I see EVERY day that will stare a hole through me when I say hello to them.

And by the way it is even more traditional than the EF. 🍿
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How so? Could you elaborate? On one of the earlier eastern catholicism posts there was a diagram of Latin vs. Byzantine Catholicism with little cartoon captions. I read it, and to be honest I felt more aligned with the east than the west in their theological views.
 
notredame_999 said:
I was just wondering how a **latin rite Catholic with no ethnic connection to an eastern rite **would be received at an eastern rite church, such as a maronite one? Would it be frowned upon? My main reasoning behind attending would be curiosity and also because I believe it is more traditional than the OF.
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No one looked at me funny in the Chaldean Mass I attended, even though I was the only one who obviously has no Middle Eastern heritage of any sort
 
I’ve attended the Melkike Greek divine liturgy a few yrs ago and felt very welcomed by both the priest and his late wife-the people there were warm and welcomed me. I thought at one time of joining the church but heard that it is difficult to switch from latin to eastern. I am always welcomed there 🙂

:extrahappy::coffeeread::byzsoc:

PS-I also enjoyed their coffee and bread cakes 🙂 and socializing after the divine liturgy 🙂
 
malphono said:
Any member of one Church sui juris is welcome to assist at Mass (aka Divine Liturgy, depending on the Particular Church) and partake of the Eucharist in any other. It’s not unusual for there to be Latin Rite visitors, and many Eastern and Oriental churches have a steady flow of them.
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if there are no eastern Catholic churches around could one attend say a Greek Orthodox Devin Liturgy? i mean this is kind of the perfect thread for me cause i was wondering the same thing, i want to see how our Eastern brethren worship.
 
notredame_999 said:
How so? Could you elaborate? On one of the earlier eastern catholicism posts there was a diagram of Latin vs. Byzantine Catholicism with little cartoon captions. I read it, and to be honest I felt more aligned with the east than the west in their theological views.
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me too, i left a comment on it saying as much
 
VetA said:
if there are no eastern Catholic churches around could one attend say a Greek Orthodox Devin Liturgy? i mean this is kind of the perfect thread for me cause i was wondering the same thing, i want to see how our Eastern brethren worship.
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You’ll no doubt get a variety of opinions, but the short answer is yes. There’s another [thread=474563]thread[/thread] in this forum that might be of interest.
 
I also agree with the eastern position that celibacy is preferable over married life (as St. Paul advises), but it is not a requirement for all priests. Someone posted this link of a letter written by Melkite Patriarch Maximos at Vatican II and I thought he had some interesting points. What is unusual is that most people who favor the ordination of married men are liberals who also favor women’s ordination, revision of doctrine regarding contraception, homosexuality ect. and I feel those are doctrines that can never change.

melkite.org/xCouncil/Council-8.htm
 
notredame_999 said:
I was just wondering how a **latin rite Catholic with no ethnic connection to an eastern rite **would be received at an eastern rite church, such as a maronite one? Would it be frowned upon? My main reasoning behind attending would be curiosity and also because I believe it is more traditional than the OF.
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It varies widely by parish, but tends towards welcoming, and sometimes to pushy over-helpfulness. A few are pretty closed off, but even those tend to warm up after a few visits, especially if you don’t complain about various things missing…
 
notredame_999 said:
I also agree with the eastern position that celibacy is preferable over married life (as St. Paul advises), but it is not a requirement for all priests.
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Married priesthood it the norm for the Eastern Catholic churches. Only monastics and bishops are required to be celibates.
 
VetA said:
if there are no eastern Catholic churches around could one attend say a Greek Orthodox Devin Liturgy? i mean this is kind of the perfect thread for me cause i was wondering the same thing, i want to see how our Eastern brethren worship.
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Yes you can attend but remember two things
  1. It will not fulfill your Sunday Obligation, so you still have to attend Mass or Divine Liturgy in a Catholic Church in full communion with Rome
  2. Do not receive the Eucharist or any Sacrament (confession) unless there is danger of death. Of course this is also subject to the priest allowing you
 
ConstantineTG said:
Yes you can attend but remember two things
  1. It will not fulfill your Sunday Obligation, so you still have to attend Mass or Divine Liturgy in a Catholic Church in full communion with Rome
  2. Do not receive the Eucharist or any Sacrament (confession) unless there is danger of death. Of course this is also subject to the priest allowing you
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SOmeone needs to actually read canon law and the ecumenical directory… which disagree on both points with you.
 
When I attended the liturgy at our local Greek Orthodox parish some years ago, I emailed their priest first and asked him if there was anything I should be aware of as a Catholic visitor. He sent me a very nice response and said I could participate in every part of the liturgy except the Eucharist, but he also explained that I could receive some of the remaining blessed bread at the end of the liturgy along with everyone else.

The Sunday I went he ended his homily by talking for a few minutes about how much he liked Mother Angelica’s show on EWTN! They were great people. I personally felt very welcome at their church and LOVED the liturgy. Afterward, he told me that the people in his parish really like having visitors because it helps them feel that their parish is truly a part of the local community (they had just opened the new parish that year).

I find it far easier to go into an Orthodox or Eastern Catholic church I’ve never been in before than a Roman Catholic church I don’t know, even though I’ve been Roman Catholic all my life. In the RC churches, I almost always manage to mess up and sit in a pew that someone clearly believes they personally own 😉
 
Aramis said:
SOmeone needs to actually read canon law and the ecumenical directory… which disagree on both points with you.
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Actually, it does. I’m not going to dig up the document because its past midnight now, but it did say that in any ecumenical activity, it does not replace Sunday Obligation. Thats the gist of it.

You can only fulfill Sunday obligation in a church that is in full communion with Rome.
 
ConstantineTG said:
Yes you can attend but remember two things
  1. It will not fulfill your Sunday Obligation, so you still have to attend Mass or Divine Liturgy in a Catholic Church in full communion with Rome
  2. Do not receive the Eucharist or any Sacrament (confession) unless there is danger of death. Of course this is also subject to the priest allowing you
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A gentle reminder or heads up that this topic has been frequently discussed at length in the Eastern Catholicism section. There is the current thread Re: Can an Eastern Catholic fulfill his Sunday obligation at an Orthodox DL? I for one hope that discussion doesn’t start up again on this tread but can continue over on that thread.
 
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