Latin-Rite USCCB Members finally approve ICEL Gray Book

[benedictgal]

My biggest problem with the Holy Week services is talking about the two thieves on the cross as “revolutionaries” Am I the only one who sees Liberation Theology influence here?

My understanding is that Gestas and St. Dismas were only common-garden-variety robbers and murderers.

Yeah, that’s how I understood it as well. I am hoping that Rome will take the Lectionary and examine it with a fine-toothed comb just like they did with the 1975 translation of the Roman Missal.

I wish that Fr. Richard John Neuhaus were a member of ICEL. He knows a thing or too about language, poetry, beauty and syntax.

 

[japhy]

The same word used in Matthew 27:44 is used in John 18:40. A few translations use different words (robber/thief in Matthew, revolutionary in John).

But the fact remains that Jesus was crucified with two criminals (Luke 23:32-33, 39), not merely with two people who the authorities didn’t like. Even if Barabbas was a “revolutionary”, he was also a murderer (Acts 3:14).

 

[FrDavid96]

Yeah, that’s how I understood it as well. I am hoping that Rome will take the Lectionary and examine it with a fine-toothed comb just like they did with the 1975 translation of the Roman Missal.

I wish that Fr. Richard John Neuhaus were a member of ICEL. He knows a thing or too about language, poetry, beauty and syntax.

My fourth-grade teacher would never have accepted the text of the current Lectionary.

Subjects and verbs does not always agree. Too many of the sentences end prepositions in. Sometimes sentences incomplete. The good Sister would have had a field day correcting that books.
I’m so grateful she learned me better.

 

[Muzhik]

My fourth-grade teacher would never have accepted the text of the current Lectionary.

Subjects and verbs does not always agree. Too many of the sentences end prepositions in. Sometimes sentences incomplete. The good Sister would have had a field day correcting that books.
I’m so grateful she learned me better.

It’s not “…she learned me better”! Do you wanna sound like some backwoods hick? It’s “…she done taught me real good.”



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[Manfred]

I wish that Fr. Richard John Neuhaus were a member of ICEL. He knows a thing or too about language, poetry, beauty and syntax.

Were this true, we’d use the RSV-CE for our Lectionary readings, and a much more dignified and theologically-precise wording of the liturgical prayers. Nothing dumbed down to the level of a paraphrase.

Do you happen to know how they translated “et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis” from the Gloria? From the Latin, “and on earth peace to men of good will”; that’s what I’m expecting. If ehis is not the rendering, then I’ll continue to recite the Gloria in Latin only. No more of this “and peace to God’s people on earth”, or “peace on earth to God’s friends”. In case you’re wondering: I do hear both of these doozies in my parish on a regular basis.

 

[japhy]

Do you happen to know how they translated “et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis” from the Gloria? From the Latin, “and on earth peace to men of good will”; that’s what I’m expecting.

“People” instead of “men”.