Latin Rite vs. Roman Rite vs. Roman Catholic

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What is the difference between the terms Latin Rite, Roman Rite, and Roman Catholic?
 
hamburglar said:
What is the difference between the terms Latin Rite, Roman Rite, and Roman Catholic?
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The Latin Church sui iuris refers to the Western part of the Catholic Church. Strictly speaking, it’s not “Latin Rite” although the term has come into general acceptance, but the Canon Law experts at EWTN prefer to use the formal sui iuris designation.

The Roman Rite is that liturgical form that majority of the Latin Church uses. It has two general expressions: the Ordinary Form (consisting of the liturgical books—Missal, Divine Office, Ritual, Pontifical and Ceremonial promulgated after the Second Vatican Council) and the Extraordinary Form (consisting of the liturgical books in use in 1962, before the Council).

There are smaller rites in the Latin Church: the Ambrosian, Mozarabic, and Anglican Use. Until the Reformation, the Sarum variant was also in use in England, and religious orders (e.g. Dominican) had their own rites until most of them adopted the Roman Rite.

“Roman Catholic” isn’t an official term but it can accurately be used to describe Catholics belonging to the Latin Church sui iuris. It should NOT be used to describe any Eastern Catholic (e.g. Byzantine Roman Catholic).
 
porthos11 said:
The Latin Church sui iuris refers to the Western part of the Catholic Church. Strictly speaking, it’s not “Latin Rite” although the term has come into general acceptance, but the Canon Law experts at EWTN prefer to use the formal sui iuris designation.

The Roman Rite is that liturgical form that majority of the Latin Church uses. It has two general expressions: the Ordinary Form (consisting of the liturgical books—Missal, Divine Office, Ritual, Pontifical and Ceremonial promulgated after the Second Vatican Council) and the Extraordinary Form (consisting of the liturgical books in use in 1962, before the Council).

There are smaller rites in the Latin Church: the Ambrosian, Mozarabic, and Anglican Use. Until the Reformation, the Sarum variant was also in use in England, and religious orders (e.g. Dominican) had their own rites until most of them adopted the Roman Rite.

“Roman Catholic” isn’t an official term but it can accurately be used to describe Catholics belonging to the Latin Church sui iuris. It should NOT be used to describe any Eastern Catholic (e.g. Byzantine Roman Catholic).
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Okay, so as a Catholic in the United States that celebrates the Extraordinary Form (Tridentine) what is my official religion?

I know that Pope John Paul II referred to the Catholic Church as a whole as the Roman Catholic Church. Since both Eastern and Western Catholics are under the Roman Pontiff, I don’t see the trouble of referring to Catholics in full communion with Rome as Roman Catholics.
 
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Okay, so as a Catholic in the United States that celebrates the Extraordinary Form (Tridentine) what is my official religion?
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Officially, you are Catholic. To be more specific, Latin Catholic.
I know that Pope John Paul II referred to the Catholic Church as a whole as the Roman Catholic Church. Since both Eastern and Western Catholics are under the Roman Pontiff, I don’t see the trouble of referring to Catholics in full communion with Rome as Roman Catholics.
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It’s something THEY do not like, and for good reason. It’s something we should respect.

I’d like to see the citation you mention, so we can see the context of his use of the term. It’s possible he may have referred only to the Roman Church. But “Roman” is not an attribute of the whole Church. Strictly, the Roman (Catholic) Church is only the Diocese of Rome, but the term can be extended to anyone who is part of the Latin Church.
 
porthos11 said:
I’d like to see the citation you mention, so we can see the context of his use of the term. It’s possible he may have referred only to the Roman Church. But “Roman” is not an attribute of the whole Church. Strictly, the Roman (Catholic) Church is only the Diocese of Rome, but the term can be extended to anyone who is part of the Latin Church.
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I know I have heard John Paul II say that, but I meant to say Pope Pius XII. One case that I know mentioned it was in his encylical Humani Generis: vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xii/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis_en.html
  1. Some say they are not bound by the doctrine, explained in Our Encyclical Letter of a few years ago, and based on the Sources of Revelation, which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing.[6] Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the true Church in order to gain eternal salvation. Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian faith.
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Okay, so is it proper to call myself a Latin Catholic who celebrates the Roman Rite? Or would Western Catholic, or Roman Catholic?
 
porthos11 said:
Well, that is pretty specific I must admit. But unfortunately, the origins of the term are still pejorative and originated with the Anglicans. Prior to that, it was just “Catholic”.
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So Pius adopted a term from English into his encyclical written in Italian or Latin?
 
There are smaller rites in the Latin Church: the Ambrosian, Mozarabic, and Anglican Use.
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The Anglican Use is NOT a rite. It is just that–a Use.
 
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