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Baptism and Christmation occur together, First Communion is similar to the Latin practice. However, there is a trend coming out of the United States—of all places—for abolishing the Latin practice of First Communion.

Also, in regards to versus populum there was a statement issued years back by our current Patriarch stating for the time being, the decision of where to face is up to the local bishops.

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East or the West, the aim of liturgy should be to bring the faithful closer to Jesus. If latinization is good in this regard it should be welcome. I am born and brought up in a churh of the eastern heritage. But I actually encountered Jesus in the liturgical practises of the Latin Church. In the present age of globalisation it is preferrable to fall in line with the so called latinisation, as the same is more rich in its vision and mission so as to bring the faithful closer to Jesus. Don’t forget that the eastern liturgy has no missionary zeal, and this is very clear from the fact that it is the latin rite which was capable of taking the gospel message throught out the world. Let us stop this vainglorious edification of traditionality and think of Jesus and his Gospel first.

JOSE THOMAS
 
josethomas said:
East or the West, the aim of liturgy should be to bring the faithful closer to Jesus. If latinization is good in this regard it should be welcome. I am born and brought up in a churh of the eastern heritage. But I actually encountered Jesus in the liturgical practises of the Latin Church. In the present age of globalisation it is preferrable to fall in line with the so called latinisation, as the same is more rich in its vision and mission so as to bring the faithful closer to Jesus. Don’t forget that the eastern liturgy has no missionary zeal, and this is very clear from the fact that it is the latin rite which was capable of taking the gospel message throught out the world. Let us stop this vainglorious edification of traditionality and think of Jesus and his Gospel first.
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  1. uses Latin translation of colonization: “missionary zeal”
yikeses! and no thanks :eek:

salaam.
 
josethomas said:
East or the West, the aim of liturgy should be to bring the faithful closer to Jesus. If latinization is good in this regard it should be welcome. I am born and brought up in a churh of the eastern heritage. But I actually encountered Jesus in the liturgical practises of the Latin Church. In the present age of globalisation it is preferrable to fall in line with the so called latinisation, as the same is more rich in its vision and mission so as to bring the faithful closer to Jesus. Don’t forget that the eastern liturgy has no missionary zeal, and this is very clear from the fact that it is the latin rite which was capable of taking the gospel message throught out the world. Let us stop this vainglorious edification of traditionality and think of Jesus and his Gospel first.

JOSE THOMAS
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“Don’t forget that the eastern liturgy has no missionary zeal,…”

WOW. Where to begin with such triumphalism!?!
youtube.com/watch?v=HaxtIQBz7uo (Japan)
youtube.com/watch?v=hB1MiWjAZy8 (Mexico)
youtube.com/watch?v=dnw7Wk4Pf-k&feature=related (India)

Obviously, there has been no missionary zeal in the Eastern Church. :rolleyes: These are but a few video examples of the missionary work that has been going on for decades. True, much of the work is by Orthodox churches who seem to be more focused on Evangelisation than the Byzantine Catholic Church (particularly here in America).

Your argument that the Latin church is the only way to evangelise the world is quite simply, simplistic.
 
Ahimsa said:
Which Latinizations does your parish still have?
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First off, Latinizations are not of themselves a BAD thing. They are holy just as Eastern traditions are holy. What was objectionable about Latinizations is that they were crowding out the eastern traditions and that was not good, but also not bad in and of itself. People have an attachment and preferance for this thing over that thing. We should also remember that many Latinizations were never forced on eastern Churches but freely adopted because people liked them.

Moving on, it has been decreed that the eastern Churches no loose their cultural identity and that they should seek to preserve their ancient traditions as much as possible. I agree with this. Part of that removing Latinizations to give room to eastern practices. I agree with that. Some Eastern Catholics are attatched to certain Latin practices and continue them, I support their right to do so. Other Eastern Catholics want to be as Eastern as possible and I suport their right to be so. I would hope that all my eastern brothers will support me in my preferance for Latin and the Extraordinary form of the Mass.

Now with all that said, I see something on this thread that I don’t like. I see Latinizations being regarded as automatically BAD. They are not. They are holy and sactifying traditions. I can understand eastern Catholics wanting to be not Latin and very eastern but I will confront the one who says that Latins are bad.

Taking out Latinizations is not a road that is supposed to lead to a schism between us in our one Church.

Many eastern Catholics like the Rosary. I myself like the Jesus prayer and sometimes pray it.

I do get that you have your set that your church uses most often and we have our set of things that we use most often and are identified with us but they belong to all of us. That is what being in the ONE true Church means. We are ONE Church together.
 
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“Don’t forget that the eastern liturgy has no missionary zeal,…”

WOW. Where to begin with such triumphalism!?!
youtube.com/watch?v=HaxtIQBz7uo (Japan)
youtube.com/watch?v=hB1MiWjAZy8 (Mexico)
youtube.com/watch?v=dnw7Wk4Pf-k&feature=related (India)

Obviously, there has been no missionary zeal in the Eastern Church. :rolleyes: These are but a few video examples of the missionary work that has been going on for decades. True, much of the work is by Orthodox churches who seem to be more focused on Evangelisation than the Byzantine Catholic Church (particularly here in America).

Your argument that the Latin church is the only way to evangelise the world is quite simply, simplistic.
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I question if it had been the case that the Vatican has let ONLY the Latin church evangelize. For instance, are the Chaldeans allowed to operate in China?
 
Isa_Almisry said:
I question if it had been the case that the Vatican has let ONLY the Latin church evangelize. For instance, are the Chaldeans allowed to operate in China?
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hey, maybe we should work towards getting the Chinese to even recognize catholicism as legal first before we get too worried about that…

Related: Assyrian Christians have a rich history in that area, especially among the Mongols during the time of their Empire.
 
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