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puer.dei
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This man is going to haunt us for decades.
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Weserthy
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There have been rumors about these kinds of sex rings and pipelines for underage boys in certain areas of the Church for awhile now so I guess it’s no surprise that McCarrick’s was the first to really be exposed. Sadly, it’s likely not the only one that has existed in the Church, but it’s often nearly impossible to get confirmation of these things unless victims are willing to come forward and speak out.
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1Lord1Faith
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Oh boy. This could turn out to be ugly for the Church.
There was reportedly one involving a high school in my area that started some decades ago and was around for a while. One of the guys was a lay teacher and was recently accused. But the larger story never made the news because the wasn’t enough irrefutable evidence to throw so many names and this school’s reputation under the bus. But people talk.
When there are several perpetrators who can be connected through work histories and past assignments, and there is also victim testimony to corroborate some type of collaboration between the perpetrators then it would seem pretty obvious that you have a sex ring.
There was reportedly one involving a high school in my area that started some decades ago and was around for a while. One of the guys was a lay teacher and was recently accused. But the larger story never made the news because the wasn’t enough irrefutable evidence to throw so many names and this school’s reputation under the bus. But people talk.
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Tis_Bearself
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He should have been removed decades ago.
However, he is going to pass away soon, and I believe he already has some degree of dementia. That’s going to limit the ability to bring legal actions. It’s already going to be hard to gather evidence if this action goes forward.
Edited to add, the lawyer involved in this doesn’t exactly sound like he’s the next Joe Jamail or David Boies either.
However, he is going to pass away soon, and I believe he already has some degree of dementia. That’s going to limit the ability to bring legal actions. It’s already going to be hard to gather evidence if this action goes forward.
Edited to add, the lawyer involved in this doesn’t exactly sound like he’s the next Joe Jamail or David Boies either.
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MamaJewel
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Rightfully so. The haunting should serve as a reminder not to ever again tolerate child sexual assault and its blatant cover-up. Certainly the victims and their families are haunted until their last breath, so we, the church, should offer up the sufferings of the haunting as well. (Poor Jesus… this has gotta be more painful than the crucifixion itself).
Sometimes, victims are “willing” but just can’t get it done mentally. These types of harm impact the victim at many layers of their being, especially when the religious that did the harm is in persona Christi. It may take a lifetime to be able to speak the words of the harm, even when the victim wants to tell.
They do.
Some of those in power covered for each other and used Church resources to collectively silence the victims that did come forward. Other times, there were dishonorable actions by those in power toward victims who just wanted the perpetrators removed from ministry. Victims and their families were told that the perp had been removed from ministry, only to find out decades later that the perp was moved to another parish and later harmed other children. This is what makes the situation so horrific to non-catholics and non-believers.
It further victimized victims who blamed themselves for trusting the hierarchy, failing to take a stronger stand against their perp and by that lack of action, indirectly putting other children in harm’s way. (Victims often internalize this way.)
Sadly, McCarrick didn’t act alone.
Tis_Bearself
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Yes, we’re aware of all this. I don’t object to your posting it, but please understand that it’s not new news to most of us at this point. I first heard about it myself in the late 1980s.
I don’t think anyone who has paid even an ounce of attention thinks that McCarrick acted alone or that he was the only problem priest. I don’t think there’s a single diocese in US that hasn’t had a whole bunch of problem priests over the last several decades.
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MamaJewel
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No. No way.
Good grief.
How long did people really know about this? Maybe you are a priest or bishop? Yes?
It was common knowledge and nobody did anything.
Those poor children.
I’m beyond shocked and crushed.
I didn’t realize this was common knowledge among the collective church.
I think I’m going to throw up.
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DENNYINMI
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The systemic sexual abuse at the hands of clergy should remain ever before our eyes as a penitential retribution of sorts. “Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church” (Col 1:24).
We suffer with these members part of the church, the Body of Christ.
We suffer with these members part of the church, the Body of Christ.
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Tis_Bearself
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It was featured on 60 Minutes, the news show with Mike Wallace, Morley Safer etc. I was a 20something young girl who regularly watched 60 Minutes, which in those days was a good news show.
I looked it up. It was actually the early 1990s: 1993, when I saw this story. I was off by 4 years, my memory was a little faulty, it’s been a long time.
I remember thinking at the time this was going to be bad for the Church and would probably cause a lawsuit, or more than one if they were doing it in many dioceses, which it turned out they were.
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pnewton
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I miss statute of limitations.
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