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Are there any bible verses that support the notion of lay people healing others through either prayer or touch? I have been invited to a non catholic healing session and dont know what to make of it? Is it based on scripture or not
 
Healing prayer is something I don’t trust, and, be warned against lay blessings; no laity may give a blessing, only priests may give them, because only priests act in the Person of Christ, who alone can impart blessings. If someone has the gift of healing, than be sure to look for signs of obedience to Christ and His Church, for if there is disobedience, than there too is the devil.

Oh, and I think there is a difference between healing prayer and the gift of healing. The former is an attempt to master God’s Mercy, the latter is a service to God’s Mercy.
 
I think the people concerned are well intentioned and one guy thinks he has cured people of back problems but i would like to know are there any bible verses to support it or not?
 
ConfusedTim said:
I think the people concerned are well intentioned and one guy thinks he has cured people of back problems but i would like to know are there any bible verses to support it or not?
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No, not healing prayer. But there are verses for the sacrament of the anointing of the sick and for the gift of healing.
 
So its ok to pray for healing and this may work but lay people actually laying hands on the person has no biblical basis? I saw a sick women surrounded by people all laying hands and want to know why these very committed bible believing think its ok
 
ConfusedTim said:
So its ok to pray for healing and this may work but lay people actually laying hands on the person has no biblical basis? I saw a sick women surrounded by people all laying hands and want to know why these very committed bible believing think its ok
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Because they are “me followers”. They have set themselves up as gods, interpreters of the Scriptures. They believe what they want, because they believe they know what is best or what is Christ’s Will. Their zeal may be authentic, but their ignorance is just as well.

Some of their denominations have taken on the Catholic Church’s likeness, and so when the believers find the historical context and circumstances in which the Bible is written, they do not find it pointing to the Church but to their denominations. Of course, this trickery is ancient, and as Saint Augustine said: “All heretics wish to be styled Catholic, yet if anyone asks them where is the Catholic place of worship none would venture to point out his own.”
 
the relevant verses call upon us to bring the sick to the elders or presbyters for anointing and healing prayer. any denomination that has rejected the notion of ordained priestly leadership is naturally going to delegate that to lay people, and cite the same verse in support.
 
Eucharisted said:
No, not healing prayer. But there are verses for the sacrament of the anointing of the sick and for the gift of healing.
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Does that mean it’s ok to pray that God heal someone? Sorry I’m still learning about Catholicism:)
 
Oumashta said:
Does that mean it’s ok to pray that God heal someone? Sorry I’m still learning about Catholicism:)
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Yes, it’s ok. To pray for health is different from healing prayer. Healing prayer is when people read the Bible in an attempt to heal someone or when laypeople lay hands on someone or when people superficially pray prayers (e.g., expecting of God a miracle rather than hoping and trusting in Him).
 
Eucharisted said:
Yes, it’s ok. To pray for health is different from healing prayer. Healing prayer is when people read the Bible in an attempt to heal someone or when laypeople lay hands on someone or when people superficially pray prayers (e.g., expecting of God a miracle rather than hoping and trusting in Him).
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It is very obvious that you have never been to a Healing Service. Yes, guide can heal you and use all of us as instruments of His healing touch.

God Bless!
 
ConfusedTim said:
Are there any bible verses that support the notion of lay people healing others through either prayer or touch? I have been invited to a non catholic healing session and dont know what to make of it? Is it based on scripture or not
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Tim,

Go and witness the healing touch of our Lord and Savior. I am sure that you will find the Holy Spirit present at the Healing Service. We have a weekly Healing Service at our Church and I believe!

Have you heard of Paul Miller? He is Catholic. I have had family members attend his Healing Services at Roman Catholic Churches.
paulmillerhealingministry.com/

God Bless!
 
Eucharisted said:
I have seen and heard enough of healing prayer to not trust it. As for Healing Services, you are correct.

And I must correct myself regarding blessings: Parents may bless their children. Here is more on that: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=122933
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I don’t have a chance to check out the link that you have provided right now. I know that there was a post on the forum about during a Catholic Mass at Communion if a Eucharistic Minister can bless a child and if it is “kosher” for a priest to bless someone that can not receive Communion but approaches the alter at Communion with their arms crossed. Quickly, I thought this was the most strange thing to not offer someone a blessing at that time. I have witnessed the blessing given at my children’s Catholic school and am greatful that they do it.

Why in the world would I limit my children only receiving a blessing from me or a priest. If you gave my children a blessing, I would be grateful. God moves us to bless those around us with his love–we should NEVER hold back extending a blessing to another.

God Bless!
 
Eucharisted said:
Yes, it’s ok. To pray for health is different from healing prayer. Healing prayer is when people read the Bible in an attempt to heal someone or when laypeople lay hands on someone or when people superficially pray prayers (e.g., expecting of God a miracle rather than hoping and trusting in Him).
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Oh! I get it now:) Thank you.
 
I think healings take place from time to time by the intercession of lay people. God hears all prayers, and if He chooses to heal someone in response to someone’s prayer, then so be it. I’m suspicious of the Benny Hinn type spectacle, but at the same time I’ve got an open mind regarding miraculous healing. It happens from time to time.

I’ve got a book on my shelf about a bloke called Brother Yun. He was a Christian in China, and had his legs smashed by the police for escaping from jail. Yet about six weeks later, he had the dual mriacle of his legs instantaneously healing and literally walking out of a high security jail.

But he’d suffered a great deal prior to that. He is not Catholic, but his witness for Christ is very real.

Miraculous healings happen. And they don’t necessarily require the intercession of a Catholic priest. Paul wrote about laying on of hands, and he wasn’t writing to Catholic priests or bishops, as at that time they didn’t even exist. On the other hand, I haven’t got much trust in the hype of some of the more vocal televangelists. I don’t think their healings would stand up to prolonged scrutiny in most cases.
 
Bob_Crowley said:
I think healings take place from time to time by the intercession of lay people. God hears all prayers, and if He chooses to heal someone in response to someone’s prayer, then so be it. I’m suspicious of the Benny Hinn type spectacle, but at the same time I’ve got an open mind regarding miraculous healing. It happens from time to time.

I’ve got a book on my shelf about a bloke called Brother Yun. He was a Christian in China, and had his legs smashed by the police for escaping from jail. Yet about six weeks later, he had the dual mriacle of his legs instantaneously healing and literally walking out of a high security jail.

But he’d suffered a great deal prior to that. He is not Catholic, but his witness for Christ is very real.

Miraculous healings happen. And they don’t necessarily require the intercession of a Catholic priest. Paul wrote about laying on of hands, and he wasn’t writing to Catholic priests or bishops, as at that time they didn’t even exist. On the other hand, I haven’t got much trust in the hype of some of the more vocal televangelists. I don’t think their healings would stand up to prolonged scrutiny in most cases.
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You are confusing the sacraments for prayer. The priest is the one through whom God administers the sacraments, but He works through whom He wants for mostly everything else, including miracles. He hears every prayer, and He answers it as He sees best for us, since He is Love and love activitely wills the greater good of the be-loved.

Priests and bishops did exist during the Apostolic times, as Paul was a bishop himself.

The Catholic Church was hierarchical from its earliest time.
 
I see lay people working in healing in their work in prisons, poor neighborhoods, and with the sick and dying. It doesn’t necessarily involve the laying on of hands, but eventual praying with those in need, usually beginning with the Our Father…for cases of those individuals who are obviously under satanic attack…people near death…but very open and wanting only that which is good, introducing the Blessed Mother and praying a Hail Mary helps people to believe that God accepts them where they are at, that He is all forgiving and Mary is the first one to stick up for them.
 
Eucharisted said:
You are confusing the sacraments for prayer. The priest is the one through whom God administers the sacraments, but He works through whom He wants for mostly everything else, including miracles. He hears every prayer, and He answers it as He sees best for us, since He is Love and love activitely wills the greater good of the be-loved.

Priests and bishops did exist during the Apostolic times, as Paul was a bishop himself.

The Catholic Church was hierarchical from its earliest time.
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You may as well call an Catholic evangelist sent into new territory a “bishop” if you’re going to label Paul a “Bishop”. He may have carried out the roles that a bishop would carry out, but there we no formal bishops or priests in the earliest church. That would come later.

And Paul was writing to a particular church, made up primarily of lay people.
 
ConfusedTim said:
Are there any bible verses that support the notion of lay people healing others through either prayer or touch? I have been invited to a non catholic healing session and dont know what to make of it? Is it based on scripture or not
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Mark 9:38-50

John said to Jesus, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he was not following us.” But Jesus said, "Do not stop him; for no one who does a deed of power in my name will be able soon afterward to speak evil of me. Whoever is not against us is for us. For truly I tell you, whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because you bear the name of Christ will by no means lose the reward.
"If any of you put a stumbling block before one of these little ones who believe in me, it would be better for you if a great millstone were hung around your neck and you were thrown into the sea. If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than to have two hands and to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. And if your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame than to have two feet and to be thrown into hell., And if your eye causes you to stumble, tear it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and to be thrown into hell, where their worm never dies, and the fire is never quenched.

"For everyone will be salted with fire. Salt is good; but if salt has lost its saltiness, how can you season it? Have salt in yourselves, and be at peace with one another.

I found it interesting that in this reading instead of rejoicing over the healing of the man, John was like a little child running to Jesus to tattle that someone not from their “group” was out healing in Jesus’ name. I think that Jesus’ response was awesome…

Here is a sermon from yesterday on Mark 9:38-50. I hope that you enjoy listening to it!
stpaulsepiscopal.episcopalky.org/archive2009/sermon_2009_09_27.html

God bless!
 
The apostles healed in Christ’s name, if I am following you correctly…The lives of the saints reveal power to heal, including the raising of the dead, St. Dominic, for example had this charism.

I find it interesting about St. Anthony Claret of Cuba…through the sacraments, he performed healings for the people. But when the physicians finally arrived, the work of healing then was transferred to them…

Christ is so humble, as a priest said, He does not want to be the ‘Do All’, and has anointed His people to extend His ministry…
 
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