You are therefore one of the lucky people who always have a priest available to celebrate Mass on Sundays.What is a lay led Communion service? Never heard of it before.
I can assure you that I would loudly exit such a service and would be meeting with the pastor of the parish in short order. The next step would be a visit with the Bishop. Nonsense like that has to be shut down immediately.Y Almost every time, the leader would use the post-Gospel, reflection as a soapbox for why there should be women priests to solve the priest shortage.
LOL After the first few times, when I saw it was going to be this woman leading, I just left. One time she called out to me “But it’s still Jesus”. Had it been my own parish, I definitely would have been meeting with the pastor but it was just a parish near my office that I sometimes stopped by for daily Mass.I can assure you that I would loudly exit such a service and would be meeting with the pastor of the parish in short order. The next step would be a visit with the Bishop. Nonsense like that has to be shut down immediately.
Why? These services are permitted by the Church when necessary… Now not liking them is one thing, but when the Bishop permits them, what are you going to accomplish by complaining to your Pastor for something the Church approves of and the Bishop permits?LOL After the first few times, when I saw it was going to be this woman leading, I just left. One time she called out to me “But it’s still Jesus”. Had it been my own parish, I definitely would have been meeting with the pastor but it was just a parish near my office that I sometimes stopped by for daily Mass.
The poster wrote “those” leading the service are borderline heretical. “Those” are people, and he says the people are borderline heretical. Not actions, not practices, but people leading the service.I didn’t see where she said any particular person was borderline heretical. Rather, practices at a particular liturgy.
You are correct that we have no authority to accuse any person of being a heretic, that right is reserved exclusively to the Magisterium.
But the Church has declared certain positions and practices to be anathema, and if those are observed, it is simply a restatement of what the Church has already declared.
An action or position can be heretical without the person performing the act being a heretic.
You are right we don’t have the specifics but there are some things that people say that are heretical. It’s not that hard to determine if statements are in line with Church teaching or not and whether they involve disciple or doctrine. We don’t have to wait for the Mageserium to “rule”, we can use our own intellect and knowledge of Church teaching to make that right judgment. If the people making those types of statements are also in leadership positions, including leading the Communion liturgy, that is plain wrong.The poster wrote “those” leading the service are borderline heretical. “Those” are people, and he says the people are borderline heretical. Not actions, not practices, but people leading the service.
Now there was nothing to back up the statement as to WHY they were so-called borderline heretical. Just an accusation that “those” leading the service are borderline heretical.
The statement is clear–he/she is talking about people, not practices, positions, etc–people.
Statements like that are judgements of people the poster has no right to make, and is accusatory of something without proof. If he/she is making statements like this to others in the parish about these people, it is also scandalous and possibly calumny.
Defend it if you like–this is plain wrong.